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Mohoney
06-18-2008, 10:44 PM
Nick Swisher's June: .327 AVG, .413 OBP, .655 SLG, 13 RBI, 16 R

Mark Buehrle's June: 2-0, 2.10 ERA, 6BB/18K, 1.03 WHIP, .227 BAA

If both of these guys post career norms the rest of the way instead of their abysmal April and May lines, I don't see how we can lose this division.

We were all praying for signs of progress from these two key guys for two months. This month, our prayers were answered.

johnnyg83
06-18-2008, 11:03 PM
I love Mark Buerhle.

jabrch
06-18-2008, 11:07 PM
Good players will perform well over the course of 162. It was silly to assume otherwise.

Mohoney
06-18-2008, 11:20 PM
Good players will perform well over the course of 162. It was silly to assume otherwise.

It wasn't totally off base to worry about down years from them. 2003 and 2006 were documented off years from Buehrle. As for Swisher, there is always an air of uncertainty involving a player changing teams.

As far as both these guys are concerned, this month has really eased my mind a lot, because I was definitely worried about both of them.

doublem23
06-18-2008, 11:21 PM
It wasn't totally off base to worry about down years from them. 2003 and 2006 were documented off years from Buehrle. As for Swisher, there is always an air of uncertainty involving a player changing teams.

Especially for a guy who'd been playing and hitting out of his normal comfort zones.

Anyways, it's about time to rip off another 7-8 wins in a row. :cool:

jabrch
06-18-2008, 11:30 PM
It wasn't totally off base to worry about down years from them. 2003 and 2006 were documented off years from Buehrle. As for Swisher, there is always an air of uncertainty involving a player changing teams.

As far as both these guys are concerned, this month has really eased my mind a lot, because I was definitely worried about both of them.


I guess it depends on your mindset...I refuse to seek out opportunities to look for the worst possible outcome. Sure - sometimes it happens - and then I'll be wrong (2007), but really- Mark and Nick are good players who are fairly projectable. Mark won't be much worse than a 4.00 ERA (only 1 season above 4.14 since becoming a starter) and Nick is a pretty safe bet to hit .250/.360/.450 with 25ish HRs. They had bad starts - but I feel like unless you desire to seek out and project the worst possible, which I do believe is silly, that there was no good reason to believe that would continue... Who knows...they may both still end up sucking - but projecting that is a different story.

Mohoney
06-18-2008, 11:40 PM
I guess it depends on your mindset...I refuse to seek out opportunities to look for the worst possible outcome. Sure - sometimes it happens - and then I'll be wrong (2007), but really- Mark and Nick are good players who are fairly projectable. Mark won't be much worse than a 4.00 ERA (only 1 season above 4.14 since becoming a starter) and Nick is a pretty safe bet to hit .250/.360/.450 with 25ish HRs. They had bad starts - but I feel like unless you desire to seek out and project the worst possible, which I do believe is silly, that there was no good reason to believe that would continue... Who knows...they may both still end up sucking - but projecting that is a different story.

It's not projecting it so much as worrying about it.

We need both these guys to contribute in the playoffs if we're going to win another World Series. That's my only mindset as a fan. I don't see (barring a complete rash of injuries to this pitching staff) this team sitting at home for the AL playoffs.

Anything that might be an impedence to the end goal of winning the World Series is something that I have to examine, and quite possibly, worry about.

Carolina Kenny
06-19-2008, 11:52 AM
Nick Swisher's June: .327 AVG, .413 OBP, .655 SLG, 13 RBI, 16 R

Mark Buehrle's June: 2-0, 2.10 ERA, 6BB/18K, 1.03 WHIP, .227 BAA

If both of these guys post career norms the rest of the way instead of their abysmal April and May lines, I don't see how we can lose this division.

We were all praying for signs of progress from these two key guys for two months. This month, our prayers were answered.

I was not praying for signs of progress. But I sure was rooting for them.

whitesox901
06-19-2008, 11:56 AM
good, we need those two to step up, glad to see thoose two doing better

PolishPower83
06-19-2008, 12:07 PM
Mark's finally getting run support and defense; if that continues to happen I don't see why he won't win 13-15 games when all is said and done.

LITTLE NELL
06-19-2008, 12:30 PM
Its good to see MB and Swish coming around but we need Thome and a healed Konerko to have a strong 2nd half. If they do; print the playoff tickets.

kraut83
06-19-2008, 12:41 PM
I think you can add Cabrera in with these 2 as well. .371 avg, .922 ops in June.