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DumpJerry
06-06-2008, 01:00 AM
A buddy of mine was sitting near where Olivo's home run on Wednesday night landed. The ball was tossed back onto the field by some spineless coward who decided since he did not want the ball, he would not give it to a kid.

My buddy told me Security descended on the jerk and tossed him from the park.

Get the word out. It is against MLB rules to throw things on the field of play. Don't do it. Don't encourage it. It is a gutless, classless move.

thomas35forever
06-06-2008, 01:01 AM
A buddy of mine was sitting near where Olivo's home run on Wednesday night landed. The ball was tossed back onto the field by some spineless coward who decided since he did not want the ball, he would not give it to a kid.

My buddy told me Security descended on the jerk and tossed him from the park.

Get the word out. It is against MLB rules to throw things on the field of play. Don't do it. Don't encourage it. It is a gutless, classless move.
Should we start a petition to have Wrigley start doing that?

It's Dankerific
06-06-2008, 01:03 AM
Now if we could just stop having the suites above the club level watching the cubs games instead of the sox game in front of them, it'll all be good.

I was really sickened when I went to the game at the end of may, everytime i looked up from my seats because some idiot up in the suite about 316 was screaming to talk on his cell phone I also had to see that they were watching the cubs game on the tvs. just go to the ****ing cubs game then!!!

thomas35forever
06-06-2008, 01:05 AM
Now if we could just stop having the suites above the club level watching the cubs games instead of the sox game in front of them, it'll all be good.

I was really sickened when I went to the game at the end of may, everytime i looked up from my seats because some idiot up in the suite about 316 was screaming to talk on his cell phone I also had to see that they were watching the cubs game on the tvs. just go to the ****ing cubs game then!!!
That sounds like a waste of money if you're going to buy a suite for a Sox game so you can watch the Cubs game when you can just watch it from home. Then again, a lot of Cubs fans don't have fiscal responsibility as they pay outrageous prices to scalpers anyway.

Soxaholic
06-06-2008, 01:05 AM
I saw this happen in right field during the makeup game his season. I was hoping it was for throwing the ball back, but I wasn't 100% sure. Good riddance!

DSpivack
06-06-2008, 01:08 AM
Should we start a petition to have Wrigley start doing that?

At least they don't actually throw the HR ball back at Wrigley.

thomas35forever
06-06-2008, 01:10 AM
At least they don't actually throw the HR ball back at Wrigley.
Not just the HR ball, but any ball.

TomBradley72
06-06-2008, 01:13 AM
That sounds like a waste of money if you're going to buy a suite for a Sox game so you can watch the Cubs game when you can just watch it from home. Then again, a lot of Cubs fans don't have fiscal responsibility as they pay outrageous prices to scalpers anyway.

Probably a corporate suite...and some folks went just to see what it was like, and have some free drinks and food. How can anyone get so pissed about what people are watching on TV a level away from you?

Nellie_Fox
06-06-2008, 01:14 AM
Probably a corporate suite...and some folks went just to see what it was like, and have some free drinks and food. How can anyone get so pissed about what people are watching on TV a level away from you?Televisions in USCF should be programmed to block Cubs games.

DumpJerry
06-06-2008, 01:16 AM
This has nothing to do with what Cub fans do. It is classless and we're better than that. Everyone knows Cub fans are total tools for doing it, after all, 15 balls get tossed on the field after only one ball flies out.

There are some steps the White Sox can take to reduce the possibility of this happening:

1. Make an announcement that throwing things on the field can result in an ejection.
2. When the visitors are at bat, move the outfield walls back 200 feet.
3. Make Bobby Jenks our only pitcher. When was the last time he gave up a dinger? 2005?

I want Mags back
06-06-2008, 01:20 AM
This has nothing to do with what Cub fans do. It is classless and we're better than that. Everyone knows Cub fans are total tools for doing it, after all, 15 balls get tossed on the field after only one ball flies out.

There are some steps the White Sox can take to reduce the possibility of this happening:

1. Make an announcement that throwing things on the field can result in an ejection.
2. When the visitors are at bat, move the outfield walls back 200 feet.
3. Make Bobby Jenks our only pitcher. When was the last time he gave up a dinger? 2005?

:rolleyes:

chisoxfanatic
06-06-2008, 01:26 AM
That's awesome to hear, DumpJerry! Leave that stuff on the north side. A bunch of us in our section were booing him when we saw that.

DumpJerry
06-06-2008, 01:28 AM
:rolleyes:
You're right. I forgot one other action item:

4. After moving the walls back 200 feet, make them as tall as the Green Monster in Fenway.

thomas35forever
06-06-2008, 01:28 AM
This has nothing to do with what Cub fans do. It is classless and we're better than that. Everyone knows Cub fans are total tools for doing it, after all, 15 balls get tossed on the field after only one ball flies out.

There are some steps the White Sox can take to reduce the possibility of this happening:

1. Make an announcement that throwing things on the field can result in an ejection.
2. When the visitors are at bat, move the outfield walls back 200 feet.
3. Make Bobby Jenks our only pitcher. When was the last time he gave up a dinger? 2005?
Don't they already make an announcement like that at the United Center? Why doesn't Reinsdorf mandate the same for Comiskey?

peeonwrigley
06-06-2008, 01:53 AM
Throwing the ball back onto the field should be an automatic ejection from the park. It has nothing to do with the Cubs, and everything to do with throwing a ****ing baseball onto the field.

And I do think they could put a few signs in the stands out there. "Fans throwing baseballs onto the field will be ejected."

That would help the fans who get peer pressured by the mouth-breathing, troglodyte drunks.

TDog
06-06-2008, 02:38 AM
Throwing the ball back in California can be prosecuted as a crime. I don't know if it ever is. In San Francisco, there were a couple of White Sox home run balls thrown back -- not all, however. It should be a crime.

Oddly enough, I was at a Brewers game a few years ago at that ballpark with the leaky retractable roof, where the TV monitors in the stands in a section with extremely obstructed views were tuned to the Bucks game. After the bucks game was over, the monitors that were set up to help people follow the game instead showed the Simpsons.

LoveYourSuit
06-06-2008, 02:49 AM
Probably a corporate suite...and some folks went just to see what it was like, and have some free drinks and food. How can anyone get so pissed about what people are watching on TV a level away from you?


I pulled this off when I attended a Cubs vs Astros game from the Rooftop a few years back.

Got to the place ate and drank myself full and then headed down to the couch and requested the Sox game on a TV.... it was granted.

It's Dankerific
06-06-2008, 02:51 AM
Probably a corporate suite...and some folks went just to see what it was like, and have some free drinks and food. How can anyone get so pissed about what people are watching on TV a level away from you?

Because I could see it. its like seeing your parents having sex. not pleasant.

also, those *******s weren't watching our game and instead were being obnoxiously loud during cubbie commercials making it hard for me to enjoy watching the SOX game. (which is what I pay $6k a year to do.)

Railsplitter
06-06-2008, 07:00 AM
Good.

C-Dawg
06-06-2008, 07:04 AM
1. Make an announcement that throwing things on the field can result in an ejection.


They already do, unless that announcement is gone for 2008 (more non-smoking announcements instead?).

itsnotrequired
06-06-2008, 07:04 AM
i hate the cubz so much!

steff
06-06-2008, 07:13 AM
1. Make an announcement that throwing things on the field can result in an ejection.



They do already. Specifically about throwing things and entering the field.

Frater Perdurabo
06-06-2008, 07:35 AM
Televisions in USCF should be programmed to block Cubs games.

I agree. In fact, they should be programmed only to show the Sox game.

DumpJerry
06-06-2008, 08:06 AM
They do already. Specifically about throwing things and entering the field.
I remember hearing it in years past. They should repeat it whenever some misanthrope throws a ball back on the field.

If that fails, then they should have the idiot sit down in a locked room with certain WSI posters and discuss the merits of doing The Wave at Comiskey. Of course, that approach could violate some sort of anti-torture provision of the Geneva Convention.......

Liam
06-06-2008, 08:11 AM
I was at the game last night and they did not throw the actual HR ball back. Someone in the bullpen gave it to a kid then the ball came about 50 feet to the center field side of where it landed.

I don't think anyone wanted to hear it but that is what happened.

RedHeadPaleHoser
06-06-2008, 08:25 AM
Not just the HR ball, but any ball.

Or 71 at once, because they're entitled to show their displeasure by possibly putting players in harm's way by flinging baseballs on the field. Right, Jacque Jones?

Law11
06-06-2008, 08:55 AM
I like this motto. So much so its a magnet on my car..

eriqjaffe
06-06-2008, 09:05 AM
Probably a corporate suite...and some folks went just to see what it was like, and have some free drinks and food.The company I work for rented a suite back in '05 to entertain some clients of ours that were in town. They invited every Sox fan in the company to come along, whether or not they had any contact with the customers - which was pretty cool, ultimately.

But, yeah, a sizeable number of our staff were more concerned with watching the Cubs/Nats game on the TV.

Then again, I'm positive that the only reason they rented the suite at the Cell in the first place was because the Cubs were out of town.

skottyj242
06-06-2008, 09:36 AM
You're right. I forgot one other action item:

4. After moving the walls back 200 feet, make them as tall as the Green Monster in Fenway.

What would happen to my seats?

itsnotrequired
06-06-2008, 09:39 AM
What would happen to my seats?

Hey, everyone, look at me! I sit close to the field! Dirk-a-derr!

:dtroll:

Steelrod
06-06-2008, 09:40 AM
One of these days, someone will hit Soriano in the back, thus creating the 2008 version of Bartman.

beasly213
06-06-2008, 09:41 AM
I think the only thing worse than the people who throw the balls back at USCF are the morons who actually ENCOURAGE them to throw the ball back.

We're not at Wrigley. If you don't want the ball find a kid and give it to him.

Jackass.

DSpivack
06-06-2008, 09:52 AM
Hey, everyone, look at me! I sit close to the field! Dirk-a-derr!

:dtroll:

I would hope everyone in the bleachers sits within 200 feet of the walls. :tongue:

Frontman
06-06-2008, 09:57 AM
'bout damn time. I can't stand that type of behavior. If you don't want to keep it, give it to a kid or don't sit where you can catch them.

Cat Thief
06-06-2008, 10:02 AM
I like this motto. So much so its a magnet on my car..


That's good. How do I get one?

I have seen people tossed on at least 3 occasions for throwing the ball back. Nothing new.

roylestillman
06-06-2008, 10:09 AM
I was at the game last night and they did not throw the actual HR ball back. Someone in the bullpen gave it to a kid then the ball came about 50 feet to the center field side of where it landed.

I don't think anyone wanted to hear it but that is what happened.

I don't think we're talking about the same home run. This was Olivo's HR in the second which landed about half way up Section 157 where I was sitting. The guy that got the ball waited for a bit (and I'll admit there was a "wave-like" mix of people wanting him to throw it back and those wanting him not to) and then threw it. The bullpen security guy got on the horn and a few minutes later security was on the guy, helped by a number of fans pointing him out.

chitownhawkfan
06-06-2008, 10:12 AM
They should be ejected and charged with assault that would put an end to this despicable practice.

twsoxfan5
06-06-2008, 10:21 AM
I like this motto. So much so its a magnet on my car..

This is great I have it hanging in my cube now. I can't stand when this happens and I just got in a fight with a guy about it a couple games ago. He was yelling for a guy to throw back a ball that was right by me and my sister and we both turned around at the same time and yelled NO! And he was like Whoa why not. And when then explained to him that it this is not Wrigley and we don't do that here and you actually get thrown out for it. He actually ended up agreeing that it was wrong and laughed when he saw a guy in another section get thrown out for it.

tebman
06-06-2008, 10:23 AM
You're right. I forgot one other action item:

4. After moving the walls back 200 feet, make them as tall as the Green Monster in Fenway.
As in so many things, Bill Veeck was ahead of his time. When he owned the old Milwaukee team in the American Association, the park had a short fence in right field. He had a 60-foot high chicken-wire fence installed above the right-field wall that was on rails and driven by a motor to be moved in place in the top half of the inning and rolled out of the way in the bottom half when Veeck's team was at bat.

According to Veeck's book, they were only able to do it for one day. The next day the league made a rule that outfield dimensions had to remain in place through the season.

:D:

southside rocks
06-06-2008, 10:26 AM
I was at two games last year where fans who 'returned' balls to the field were ejected by security, and pretty quickly, too.

I just assumed that this is routine at the Cell, as it should be at every baseball park.

CHISOXFAN13
06-06-2008, 10:30 AM
Not just the HR ball, but any ball.

I give two ****s what they do there. Just don't do it on the South Side.

Andy T Clown
06-06-2008, 10:39 AM
I was playing MLB2K8 with my son the other day. He always get to be the Sox at home, so I was the Red Sox. I hit a home run and the crowd at the Cell started chanting "throw it back". It made me sick.

Do we have grounds for a lawsuit?

Frontman
06-06-2008, 10:43 AM
I give two ****s what they do there. Just don't do it on the South Side.

Just don't do it period. I don't get the need to do so. If you're sitting in the bleachers, part of the fun is having the chance to get a home run ball. Sitting along the baselines, the chance for a foul ball adds to the fun. If the display at Wrigley earlier this season is any sign, MLB needs to clamp down on it before they have a huge issue with possibly an injury or such happening.

thepaulbowski
06-06-2008, 10:48 AM
Televisions in USCF should be programmed to block Cubs games.

Me and bunch of my co-workers watched a Sox game while in a suite at a Cub game once. It was a reason to leave work early and get some free beer & grub. The funny part was, most of the people in the suite were Sox fans, so more people were watching the TV than the game in our suite. A vendor paid for it, so no regrets.

MisterB
06-06-2008, 11:00 AM
I like this motto. So much so its a magnet on my car..

Yeah, but we really shouldn't encourage throwing trash on the field. :wink:

wulfy
06-06-2008, 11:00 AM
That sounds like a waste of money if you're going to buy a suite for a Sox game so you can watch the Cubs game when you can just watch it from home. Then again, a lot of Cubs fans don't have fiscal responsibility as they pay outrageous prices to scalpers anyway.

I watched Game 3 of the 2005 World Series from a suite in the Pepsi Center in Denver. :bandance:

I think there was a hockey game that night, not sure.

daveeym
06-06-2008, 11:05 AM
Wow quite ridiculous thread this turned into. Should be in what's the score.

Cat Thief
06-06-2008, 11:16 AM
Wow quite ridiculous thread this turned into. Should be in what's the score.

:popcorn:

MCHSoxFan
06-06-2008, 11:45 AM
Should we start a petition to have Wrigley start doing that?


Yes.

turners56
06-06-2008, 11:59 AM
I like the anti-Wrigley attitude of this. Throwing home run balls back is just stupid. And it's dangerous.

ajismyhero
06-06-2008, 12:08 PM
I pulled this off when I attended a Cubs vs Astros game from the Rooftop a few years back.

Got to the place ate and drank myself full and then headed down to the couch and requested the Sox game on a TV.... it was granted.

Ha! i did the same thing in 2006 - work gave out roof top passes for a Cubs game, and who am I to say no to a free ball game? Cubs game went into a rain delay so I requested the Sox game be put on the TV, ended up watching most of the game with Curtis Granderson's dad - random indeed. But seriously, I get just as annoyed with Cubs fans as the rest of you, but it's not going away, so just get over it.

MCHSoxFan
06-06-2008, 12:09 PM
This has nothing to do with what Cub fans do. It is classless and we're better than that. Everyone knows Cub fans are total tools for doing it, after all, 15 balls get tossed on the field after only one ball flies out.

There are some steps the White Sox can take to reduce the possibility of this happening:

1. Make an announcement that throwing things on the field can result in an ejection.
2. When the visitors are at bat, move the outfield walls back 200 feet.
3. Make Bobby Jenks our only pitcher. When was the last time he gave up a dinger? 2005?

Booby gave one up on June 20th vs. FLA. I was there and I was mad! :angry:

turners56
06-06-2008, 12:30 PM
Ha! i did the same thing in 2006 - work gave out roof top passes for a Cubs game, and who am I to say no to a free ball game? Cubs game went into a rain delay so I requested the Sox game be put on the TV, ended up watching most of the game with Curtis Granderson's dad - random indeed. But seriously, I get just as annoyed with Cubs fans as the rest of you, but it's not going away, so just get over it.

So Curtis' dad is a Cubs fan? I thought Curtis was from the South Side?

turners56
06-06-2008, 12:31 PM
This has nothing to do with what Cub fans do. It is classless and we're better than that. Everyone knows Cub fans are total tools for doing it, after all, 15 balls get tossed on the field after only one ball flies out.

There are some steps the White Sox can take to reduce the possibility of this happening:

1. Make an announcement that throwing things on the field can result in an ejection.
2. When the visitors are at bat, move the outfield walls back 200 feet.
3. Make Bobby Jenks our only pitcher. When was the last time he gave up a dinger? 2005?

If they can have retractable roofs, why not moving fences? I LIKE IT! Home Field advantage FTW!

amsteel
06-06-2008, 01:46 PM
This may have been mentioned somewhere else and I may be mistaken, but, did someone throw CQ's HR ball back on to the field in the 1st inning of the Tuesday game? It went into the BP sports bar and a few seconds later a ball came from that directions. The tip off for me was a couple minutes later security was escorting a young gentlemen towards the exit. Did anyone else see this?

DumpJerry
06-06-2008, 02:14 PM
I think the ultimate sign of ridiculous behavior up north would happen if 20 balls fly back onto the field after an inside the park home run.:tongue:

Rockman218
06-06-2008, 03:26 PM
I was at that game. Some ********s goaded him into doing it. He just gave into peer pressure. They needed to get rid of all those jerks.

WhiteSox5187
06-06-2008, 03:29 PM
I don't mind the tradition at Wrigley as it is, or was, unique to there, but of course following that incident with Cinncinatti it has gotten out of hand. But it should never happen at Comiskey.

It's Dankerific
06-06-2008, 03:30 PM
I was at that game. Some ********s goaded him into doing it. He just gave into peer pressure. They needed to get rid of all those jerks.

Only acceptable for a cub fan taking in real baseball at USCF. (They may not realize they shouldnt be doing that.)

As for all the comments about watching the sox game in other suites. I would mind this cub watching **** MUCH less if it wasn't in the line of sight of regular seats. further back in the suite, I wouldn't mind as much. (like the couch downstairs in one example).

thomas35forever
06-06-2008, 03:37 PM
I think the ultimate sign of ridiculous behavior up north would happen if 20 balls fly back onto the field after an inside the park home run.:tongue:
Don't give them any ideas.

comet2k
06-06-2008, 04:46 PM
In case I ever go to Wrigley again (it's been 20 years,) does anyone know what the proper etiquette is if a ball hit by the other team bounces into the bleachers for a ground rule double? Do I throw it back on the field, toss it over the stands into the street or ask Fukudome to sign it and give it back to me?

getonbckthr
06-06-2008, 04:48 PM
I'm proud of our security.

TDog
06-06-2008, 04:51 PM
Come to think of it, I was at a Sox game early in the decade when I threw a ball back on the field. I was standing in left field behind, down the line in fair territory watching Mark Johnson loosening up a pitcher before a game. One throw sailed over Johnson's head, and I grabbed it. He held out his glove and motioned with his throwing hand for me to throw it to him, which I did. Under those circumstances, I never considered giving the ball to a kid.

Of course, early in the 20th Century, if a ball was hit into the stands, fans, ushers came and got the ball if fans didn't throw them back. Throwing back baseballs after home runs is to modern baseball, I suppose, what Cro-Magnon man is to modern man. Except in the case of Cubs fans, I guess it would be closer to Piltdown man.

The idea that balls hit out of play should be not have to be returned to the field was a gift to the fans. Leave it to Cubs fans to ruin it.

In the mid-1960s, I was watching an American soccer match on television -- I think CBS thought it might be the next big thing. A ball was kicked into the stands, and the announcer said, "This is just like baseball. Fans get to keep the ball." But the officials looked around, and the players looked around, and no one saw an extra ball. After about a minute of this, the announcer asked, "Does anyone in the stands have a soccer ball?"

The match should have been played in Wrigley Field.

DickAllen72
06-06-2008, 05:02 PM
Should we start a petition to have Wrigley start doing that?
No. It's against Major League Baseball rules, so it does not apply to the Cubs.

itsnotrequired
06-06-2008, 05:06 PM
No. It's against Major League Baseball rules, so it does not apply to the Cubs.

I thought there wasn't any actual, specific league rule regarding this.

Etownsox13
06-06-2008, 05:12 PM
This has nothing to do with what Cub fans do. It is classless and we're better than that. Everyone knows Cub fans are total tools for doing it, after all, 15 balls get tossed on the field after only one ball flies out.

There are some steps the White Sox can take to reduce the possibility of this happening:

1. Make an announcement that throwing things on the field can result in an ejection.
2. When the visitors are at bat, move the outfield walls back 200 feet.
3. Make Bobby Jenks our only pitcher. When was the last time he gave up a dinger? 2005?

At Old Comiskey the CF fence was movable. If memory serves, MLB made a rule that fence distances could only be changed at the start of the season, due to the Sox moving fences each series based on opponents.

ws05champs
06-06-2008, 05:26 PM
They really need to publicize the fact that you Will be ejected for throwing back a ball. It needs to be on signs in all the outfield seats and strongly announced over the PA.

I think few real Sox fans would ever do something like that but unfortunately there are a lot of people attending games that are casual fans. They see it is okay at Wrigley and think it is okay here. While it may seem to them like a show of revenge, it is dangerous to the players and disrespectful of the game itself. Plus I feel it reflects poorly on the White Sox and the true Sox fans. Casual fans just don't understand that.

soxfan21
06-06-2008, 09:41 PM
I'm glad that he did get ejected for throwing it back. I'm sick and tired of goin to sox games, seeing the opposing team hit a homer (which is becoming few and far between now:D:) and hearing fans chant "throw it back, throw it back." At least you do hear some fans saying that the Cell is not wrigley field. It's just a stupid north side tradition, and I would hate it if it catches on, on the South Side. Besides, who wants to throw back a free ball anyway?

Boondock Saint
06-06-2008, 09:44 PM
I'm proud of our security.

Damn right. It's a great thing that being an ******* stays Wrigley tradition, instead of it spreading to other ballparks.

Gavin
06-06-2008, 09:44 PM
They really need to publicize the fact that you Will be ejected for throwing back a ball. It needs to be on signs in all the outfield seats and strongly announced over the PA.

I think few real Sox fans would ever do something like that but unfortunately there are a lot of people attending games that are casual fans. They see it is okay at Wrigley and think it is okay here. While it may seem to them like a show of revenge, it is dangerous to the players and disrespectful of the game itself. Plus I feel it reflects poorly on the White Sox and the true Sox fans. Casual fans just don't understand that.

I've been hit in the head with a lot of harder and faster things and I can promise you that it's probably not that dangerous.

daveeym
06-06-2008, 09:56 PM
I've been hit in the head with a lot of harder and faster things and I can promise you that it's probably not that dangerous.
While the idea of not throwing balls back is sound, and I'm glad that security did their job, don't antagonize the flubsessed that want to make it a capital crime, it can only end in the roadhouse and bannings.

ws05champs
06-08-2008, 01:43 AM
I've been hit in the head with a lot of harder and faster things and I can promise you that it's probably not that dangerous.
I was more thinking along the lines that if the outfielder did not notice the ball on the ground and slipped on it.