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KenBerryGrab
06-05-2008, 02:05 PM
He could move to second, he could stay at short, but he is ours!

havelj
06-05-2008, 02:06 PM
Love it. Move him to 2B with Alexi at SS.

Agent is........?

sox1970
06-05-2008, 02:07 PM
aGx1gUWuLLI

sox1970
06-05-2008, 02:10 PM
If he's 6 feet, I'm 6'9".

DumpJerry
06-05-2008, 02:13 PM
aGx1gUWuLLI
I dunno. He got a "B" in Real Estate.

Between that and his rock 'n roll pesona, Sleazak will hate him.

Welcome!

Lip Man 1
06-05-2008, 02:13 PM
That's OK...I seem to recall a few other top Sox shortstops who weren't very "big"...guys like Aparicio and Guillen.

Lip

It's Dankerific
06-05-2008, 02:15 PM
I'm sure he'll get a fan club quickly, in any case.

Bend me like Beckham?

PicktoCLick72
06-05-2008, 02:15 PM
That's OK...I seem to recall a few other top Sox shortstops who weren't very "big"...guys like Aparicio and Guillen.

Lip

Yea and guys Caruso and Noberto Martin.

Jaysox
06-05-2008, 02:22 PM
That's OK...I seem to recall a few other top Sox shortstops who weren't very "big"...guys like Aparicio and Guillen.

Lip

I love this pick! whether he plays 2nd or SS it will be nice to get some young quality talent up the middle!

Frater Perdurabo
06-05-2008, 02:22 PM
He sort of reminds me of how Joe Crede looks.

VeeckAsInWreck
06-05-2008, 02:23 PM
Can you imagine what the locker room is going to be like with Swish and Beckham around? :o:

RockyMtnSoxFan
06-05-2008, 02:24 PM
Does anybody know if he is related to Tim Beckham, who went to the Rays at #1?

sox1970
06-05-2008, 02:25 PM
Does anybody know if he is related to Tim Beckham, who went to the Rays at #1?

Um...no.

KenBerryGrab
06-05-2008, 02:26 PM
Does anybody know if he is related to Tim Beckham, who went to the Rays at #1?
Tim Beckham: http://www.bigleaguefutures.com/big_league_futures/images/2007/12/13/timbeckham_2.jpg

Gordon Beckham:http://thecollegebaseballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/g-beck.jpg

WhiteSox5187
06-05-2008, 02:26 PM
He sort of reminds me of how Joe Crede looks.

He DOES kinda resemble Joe Crede...well, I hope he turns out good!

Soxfest
06-05-2008, 02:27 PM
I like the pick, Cabrera days are numbered in a Sox uniform and SS of future is needed! http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/gosoxretro.gif

thomas35forever
06-05-2008, 02:28 PM
He DOES kinda resemble Joe Crede...well, I hope he turns out good!
Same here. Who else can see Crede, AJ, Swisher, and this kid starting a band?:cool::Rocker:

Frater Perdurabo
06-05-2008, 02:28 PM
He DOES kinda resemble Joe Crede...well, I hope he turns out good!

That would be nice, although I could do with fewer popups.

VeeckAsInWreck
06-05-2008, 02:30 PM
I like the pick, Cabrera days are numbered in a Sox uniform and SS of future is needed! http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/gosoxretro.gif

Cabrera won't be back here next year. All we can hope for is that Alexei moves to SS and in a couple of years we see Beckham play at 2B.

doublem23
06-05-2008, 02:31 PM
I like the pick, Cabrera days are numbered in a Sox uniform and SS of future is needed! http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/gosoxretro.gif

Cabrera's days with the Sox are numbered for reasons that have nothing to do with the Sox's #1 draft pick.

Ah... Gordon joins a fine tradition of #1 overall draft picks by the White Sox... Guys such as Joe Borchard, Jason Stumm, Wyatt Allen, Kris Honel, and Royce Ring.

KenBerryGrab
06-05-2008, 02:32 PM
Ah... Gordon joins a fine tradition of #1 overall draft picks by the White Sox... Guys such as Joe Borchard, Jason Stumm, Wyatt Allen, Kris Honel, and Royce Ring.

And Jack McDowell, Robin Ventura, Frank Thomas, Alex Fernandez.....

RockyMtnSoxFan
06-05-2008, 02:34 PM
Tim Beckham: http://www.bigleaguefutures.com/big_league_futures/images/2007/12/13/timbeckham_2.jpg

Gordon Beckham:http://thecollegebaseballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/g-beck.jpg

My bad. It just seemed kind of odd that there were two shortstops with the last name of Beckham who went in the top 10 picks of the same draft.

doublem23
06-05-2008, 02:35 PM
And Jack McDowell, Robin Ventura, Frank Thomas, Alex Fernandez.....

Yeah, except my list are a bunch of guys drafted from 1999-2003 while your guys were drafted 20 years ago... Pardon me if I don't hold my breath waiting for Beckham to pan out as a serviceable Major Leaguer. :cool:

Malgar 12
06-05-2008, 02:35 PM
And Jack McDowell, Robin Ventura, Frank Thomas, Alex Fernandez.....

And don't forget Harold Baines who was the #1 overall in the entire draft.

cards press box
06-05-2008, 02:36 PM
And Gordon Beckham is a high draft choice as were Harold Baines, Jack McDowell, Robin Ventura, Frank Thomas and Alex Fernandez. This is a great pick. Some analysts are surprised that the Orioles or Reds did not draft him with the 4th and 7th picks, respectively.

veeter
06-05-2008, 02:36 PM
Whether he pans out or not, it's the right pick. A shortstop we can build around. Hopefully he's the captain type that becomes one of the faces of the franchise.

gobears1987
06-05-2008, 02:37 PM
YES!:bandance:

I wanted the Sox to take him, but I didn't expect him to still be around for the 8th pick.

doublem23
06-05-2008, 02:37 PM
And Gordon Beckham is a high draft choice as were Harold Baines, Jack McDowell, Robin Ventura, Frank Thomas and Alex Fernandez. This is a great pick. Some analysts are surprised that the Orioles or Reds did not draft him with the 4th and 7th picks, respectively.

I'm not saying he's a bad player or even a bad pick... 1/2 the process is scouting, the other 1/2 is development, something the Sox have been, well, not great at lately.

FedEx227
06-05-2008, 02:37 PM
Cabrera won't be back here next year. All we can hope for is that Alexei moves to SS and in a couple of years we see Beckham play at 2B.

The writing is definitely on the wall.

Alexei is our shortstop next season, hopefully Richar is at 2B until we can see what Beckham can do and he if he projects well can fill in both slots depending on Ramirez and Richar's progress.

knocko94
06-05-2008, 02:40 PM
he's on TV now. His hair is OMG ridiculous.

gobears1987
06-05-2008, 02:40 PM
I dunno. He got a "B" in Real Estate.

Between that and his rock 'n roll pesona, Sleazak will hate him.

Welcome!Even if he makes it to the big club quickly, I'd still be willing to bet that Sleazak's paper will have shut down by the time he's on the 25 man roster.

EMachine10
06-05-2008, 02:41 PM
His hair is outrageous, but he gave a great interview and seems to be very charismatic. Should be a great addition. I really like it so far.

cws05champ
06-05-2008, 02:48 PM
His hair is outrageous, but he gave a great interview and seems to be very charismatic. Should be a great addition. I really like it so far.
They are going to have to bring more cameras into the same room with he and Swisher on the team hogging the camera! :smile:

knocko94
06-05-2008, 02:48 PM
Helmet head

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3034/newpictureky3.jpg

LoveYourSuit
06-05-2008, 02:50 PM
Middle IF is where I wanted to draft and I love this pick.

FedEx227
06-05-2008, 02:50 PM
Apparently you guys never watched Two-A-Days on MTV. For some reason that's the hair style for high school athletes in the South, like half of the team chronicled on that show had the exact same hair.

http://www.ocregister.com/newsimages/show/2006/08/23twoaday.jpg

White City
06-05-2008, 02:51 PM
Believe it or not, that is a popular hairstyle in the East Cobb to Westminster to UGa circle in which he has been running. If that is still in a decade from now, I will have to move somewhere else.

thomas35forever
06-05-2008, 02:53 PM
I guess he's been taking styling tips from Donald Trump.

VeeckAsInWreck
06-05-2008, 02:55 PM
Believe it or not, that is a popular hairstyle in the East Cobb to Westminster to UGa circle in which he has been running. If that is still in a decade from now, I will have to move somewhere else.

That hairstyle makes me think of Kenneth from "30 Rock"
http://z.about.com/d/tvcomedies/1/0/B/2/-/-/1TINaeN06.jpg

Sockinchisox
06-05-2008, 02:55 PM
He could be Eric Byrnes' long lost twin.

gr8mexico
06-05-2008, 02:58 PM
After watching the video from YOUTUBE. What a waste of a draft pick. He made it seem like he doesnt work out in the gym. :o:

KenBerryGrab
06-05-2008, 02:59 PM
Yes, one offhand comment in a light interview should sour you on the kid.

Here's a story on both Beckhams that has good background on Gordon:
http://www.dugoutcentral.com/blog/?p=1472

TDog
06-05-2008, 03:00 PM
To the fist-round tradiition, I was going to add Carlos May. And you could include Steve Swisher and Brian Anderson, for better or worse. Carlos Quentin, Paul Konerko, Gavin Floyd, John Danks, Nick Swisher, Matt Thornton don't count because they were first-round selections by other teams.

KRS1
06-05-2008, 03:02 PM
Gotta love the fact that he showed big time power and clutch hitting with a wood bat in the Cape Cod league last year.

EMachine10
06-05-2008, 03:05 PM
After watching the video from YOUTUBE. What a waste of a draft pick. He made it seem like he doesnt work out in the gym. :o:

Because he was being 100% serious in that interview...:rolleyes:

thomas35forever
06-05-2008, 03:22 PM
After watching the video from YOUTUBE. What a waste of a draft pick. He made it seem like he doesnt work out in the gym. :o:
Yup, because college kids can't have any fun in the weight room.:rolleyes:

cheezheadsoxfan
06-05-2008, 03:26 PM
He sort of reminds me of how Joe Crede looks.

Yes, he does. A more animated version.

soxrme
06-05-2008, 03:26 PM
Cabrera's days with the Sox are numbered for reasons that have nothing to do with the Sox's #1 draft pick.

Ah... Gordon joins a fine tradition of #1 overall draft picks by the White Sox... Guys such as Joe Borchard, Jason Stumm, Wyatt Allen, Kris Honel, and Royce Ring.
Thanks for the reminders:bandance:

cheezheadsoxfan
06-05-2008, 03:27 PM
Same here. Who else can see Crede, AJ, Swisher, and this kid starting a band?:cool::Rocker:

LOL! Who's the frontman?

34 Inch Stick
06-05-2008, 03:28 PM
Tim Beckham: http://www.bigleaguefutures.com/big_league_futures/images/2007/12/13/timbeckham_2.jpg

Gordon Beckham:http://thecollegebaseballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/g-beck.jpg

Reminds me of The Jerk.

Lip Man 1
06-05-2008, 03:28 PM
Just wondering...who is his agent?

Lip

jsg-07
06-05-2008, 03:29 PM
LOL! Who's the frontman?

I'd have to say Crede with the look he was sporting at the WS Parade...

cheezheadsoxfan
06-05-2008, 03:35 PM
I'd have to say Crede with the look he was sporting at the WS Parade...

And AJ on drums.

doublem23
06-05-2008, 03:38 PM
LOL! Who's the frontman?

The man, the myth, the legend...

http://mlbfleecefactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/rowand1.jpg

Tragg
06-05-2008, 03:44 PM
My man Shooter's dropping. He had a rough last 4 weeks, that's for sure.

cheezheadsoxfan
06-05-2008, 03:45 PM
The man, the myth, the legend...

http://mlbfleecefactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/rowand1.jpg

Perfect! He does look the part.:macho:

White City
06-05-2008, 03:46 PM
My man Shooter's dropping. He had a rough last 4 weeks, that's for sure.

He was my man Shooter first (UVa). Hopefully, by some twist of fate, he can become OUR man and make it into the Sox organization.

EMachine10
06-05-2008, 03:48 PM
He was my man Shooter first (UVa). Hopefully, by some twist of fate, he can become OUR man and make it into the Sox organization.

That would be quite the drop without a Supplemental 1st, 2nd, or Supplemental 2nd.

Harry Potter
06-05-2008, 03:50 PM
Tim Beckham: http://www.bigleaguefutures.com/big_league_futures/images/2007/12/13/timbeckham_2.jpg

Gordon Beckham:http://thecollegebaseballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/g-beck.jpg

Twin brothers from different mothers

kittle42
06-05-2008, 03:55 PM
After watching the video from YOUTUBE. What a waste of a draft pick. He made it seem like he doesnt work out in the gym. :o:

Oh, Jesus. :rolleyes:

balke
06-05-2008, 03:56 PM
So when do we draft Jordan Danks, or is he already gone?

White City
06-05-2008, 03:57 PM
That would be quite the drop without a Supplemental 1st, 2nd, or Supplemental 2nd.

Not today. More like PTBNL in the future some time.

sox1970
06-05-2008, 04:00 PM
So when do we draft Jordan Danks, or is he already gone?

Sox don't pick until 86 overall.

MeteorsSox4367
06-05-2008, 04:03 PM
Beckham comes from a solid program at UGA and obviously, I hope the kid eventually makes it up to the Sox' roster.

I just hope he won't turn out to be the next Jason Dellaero.

sox1970
06-05-2008, 04:05 PM
Beckham comes from a solid program at UGA and obviously, I hope the kid eventually makes it up to the Sox' roster.

I just hope he won't turn out to be the next Jason Dellaero.

I'm going to assume a college player picked #8 is pretty much a lock to be a good big league player.

EMachine10
06-05-2008, 04:06 PM
Being a college player, after he signs (assuming he does) will he land in Winston Salem or Kannapolis? I really don't think he needs rookie ball.

turners56
06-05-2008, 04:07 PM
Sox don't pick until 86 overall.

The Brewers get two freaking compensation picks because of Linebrink. What's up with that? Why 2?

sox1970
06-05-2008, 04:08 PM
Being a college player, after he signs (assuming he does) will he land in Winston Salem or Kannapolis? I really don't think he needs rookie ball.

I'd say Winston-Salem this year. Birmingham in 2009. Charlotte and Chicago in 2010.

sas1974
06-05-2008, 04:09 PM
Here's his scouting video from the MLB Draft site:

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_3_1.jsp?w_id=701847&w=/2008/open/draft/broll/br_beckham_james_400.wmv&mid=200805302799279&vid=11071&pid=gen_video&cid=mlb&v=2

Who compiles that footage? The player? Scouts? The league? Either way, they could've found some better footage. I think he only reached base safely in one of the ABs. I know it's more about his mechanics than the results, but still...

That being said, I like the pick.

EMachine10
06-05-2008, 04:11 PM
The Brewers get two freaking compensation picks because of Linebrink. What's up with that? Why 2?

Phillips just explained this. Since we picked above 15, we don't surrender our 1st round pick. We lose our 2nd round pick, plus the supplemental. Teams picking 16-30 must hand over their first round pick, plus the former team receives a compensatory pick from the appropriate round, depending on if the player was a type A, B, or C free agent. Linebrink was a Type A.

balke
06-05-2008, 04:22 PM
Sox don't pick until 86 overall.



I heard there's an outside chance he'll fall that far though. People had him early 80's I think

nodiggity59
06-05-2008, 04:24 PM
Not to be a dark cloud, by the MLB.com footage doesn't do the kid any favors. He looks over matched in college from the looks of that.

TDog
06-05-2008, 04:43 PM
I'm going to assume a college player picked #8 is pretty much a lock to be a good big league player.

You shouldn't.

doublem23
06-05-2008, 04:44 PM
I'm going to assume a college player picked #8 is pretty much a lock to be a good big league player.

Such as John Van Benschoten (8th overall pick, 2002, Kent State U) or Chad Green (#8 in 1996, University of Kentucky), or Pete Janicki (#8 in 1992, UCLA), or Tim Costo (#8 in 1990, University of Iowa)

I could go on... (http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?overall_pick=8&draft_type=junreg)

White City
06-05-2008, 04:48 PM
Such as John Van Benschoten (8th overall pick, 2002, Kent State U) or Chad Green (#8 in 1996, University of Kentucky), or Pete Janicki (#8 in 1992, UCLA), or Tim Costo (#8 in 1990, University of Iowa)

I could go on... (http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?overall_pick=8&draft_type=junreg)

STEVE TROUT!!!

Anyway, your linked list is extremely depressing.

VeeckAsInWreck
06-05-2008, 04:49 PM
Such as John Van Benschoten (8th overall pick, 2002, Kent State U) or Chad Green (#8 in 1996, University of Kentucky), or Pete Janicki (#8 in 1992, UCLA), or Tim Costo (#8 in 1990, University of Iowa)

I could go on... (http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?overall_pick=8&draft_type=junreg)

Todd Helton was a #8 pick in 1995.

doublem23
06-05-2008, 04:51 PM
Todd Helton was a #8 pick in 1995.

He was. I'm not saying #8 picks are doomed, but to say he's a shoe-in to be a good MLB player just because he was picked high and went to college? Not true.

btrain929
06-05-2008, 05:00 PM
Being a college player, after he signs (assuming he does) will he land in Winston Salem or Kannapolis? I really don't think he needs rookie ball.

They put Poreda in GF last year.....?

Carolina Kenny
06-05-2008, 05:06 PM
We have great luck with player named Gordon!

TDog
06-05-2008, 05:06 PM
Todd Helton was a #8 pick in 1995.

That a premier ballplayer was picked eighth doesn't support the argument that the No.8 pick in the first round is a lock to be a good ballplayer. Albert Pujols was drafted in the 13th round, but no one would use this fact to argue that 13th round draft picks are locks to be good major leaguers.

btrain929
06-05-2008, 05:10 PM
I'm no hitting coach (I'd like to be down the road), but when he loads then attacks the ball, it looks like his body comes forward and his hands go back, and around the ball. Those swings didn't look too smooth. I'm sure he has had other swings in his college career that MLB.com didn't have where his hands stand more in flow with his body and where he mashes the ball, but that's just something I noticed. Ideally your hands go back with your body, and come forward with your body. That would prevent a lot of those 1-handed swings they showed where he missed or weakly grounded out.

Either way, you can't put up the numbers that he did w/o having a good swing. I have a feeling that video was just a bad compilation.

102605
06-05-2008, 05:14 PM
I'm no hitting coach (I'd like to be down the road), but when he loads then attacks the ball, it looks like his body comes forward and his hands go back, and around the ball. Those swings didn't look too smooth. I'm sure he has had other swings in his college career that MLB.com didn't have where his hands stand more in flow with his body and where he mashes the ball, but that's just something I noticed. Ideally your hands go back with your body, and come forward with your body. That would prevent a lot of those 1-handed swings they showed where he missed or weakly grounded out.

Either way, you can't put up the numbers that he did w/o having a good swing. I have a feeling that video was just a bad compilation.

Walker will fix him! :stirpot:

turners56
06-05-2008, 05:16 PM
Such as John Van Benschoten (8th overall pick, 2002, Kent State U) or Chad Green (#8 in 1996, University of Kentucky), or Pete Janicki (#8 in 1992, UCLA), or Tim Costo (#8 in 1990, University of Iowa)

I could go on... (http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?overall_pick=8&draft_type=junreg)

Well, at least Todd Helton is on that list.

TDog
06-05-2008, 05:23 PM
Walker will fix him! :stirpot:

You joke (I know you do because you're in teal, probably redundantly), but after Robin Ventura was drafted in the first round at the end of a college career that included a 58-game hitting streak that I believe was ended by Jack McDowell, the Sox completely changed the way he hit. Walt Hriniak was coaching at the time.

Lip Man 1
06-05-2008, 05:27 PM
T-Dog:

Correct, Jack shut him down if memory serves in the College World Series.

Lip

VeeckAsInWreck
06-05-2008, 05:27 PM
That a premier ballplayer was picked eighth doesn't support the argument that the No.8 pick in the first round is a lock to be a good ballplayer. Albert Pujols was drafted in the 13th round, but no one would use this fact to argue that 13th round draft picks are locks to be good major leaguers.

I wasn't saying that the #8 pick is a lock to be a star. I was pointing out that fact since a bunch of unknowns were being mentioned as also being the 8th picks in previous drafts. There is no way of telling who'll do what. The classic example is of Mike Piazza who was drafted in the 62nd round as a favor to Tommy Lasorda.

faneidde
06-05-2008, 06:07 PM
Keith Law likes the pick.

Linky (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2008/news/story?id=3427340)

PeoriaSoxFan
06-05-2008, 06:18 PM
How much does the switch from aluminum to wood bats hurt the stats of draftees?

EMachine10
06-05-2008, 06:21 PM
How much does the switch from aluminum to wood bats hurt the stats of draftees?

I don't know, but maybe a little. Beckham was the Cape Cod League (Wood Bats) HR champion and he seemed to do well there.

Daver
06-05-2008, 06:26 PM
After watching the video from YOUTUBE. What a waste of a draft pick. He made it seem like he doesnt work out in the gym. :o:


So what.

He's a ballplayer, not an athlete.

bigdommer
06-05-2008, 07:10 PM
Not to be a dark cloud, by the MLB.com footage doesn't do the kid any favors. He looks over matched in college from the looks of that.

Uh, yeah, the guy hit .400 with 24 bombs for the SEC champs. He raked this weekend in the regional. I think the games with NC State this weekend are on the four letter.

champagne030
06-05-2008, 07:29 PM
Keith Law likes the pick.

Linky (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2008/news/story?id=3427340)

Jabrch must be in a quandary. He never questions a move by Ozzie or Kenny, but says that Law doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. I'm sure it'll be that the blind squirrel is Law and not Kenny. Shocking.

sullythered
06-05-2008, 07:31 PM
Uh, yeah, the guy hit .400 with 24 bombs for the SEC champs. He raked this weekend in the regional. I think the games with NC State this weekend are on the four letter.
Over the last few weeks I saw four separate mock drafts that had us taking this dude. He is pretty universally considered a very good hitting prospect at the least. So, yeah, I agree with you.

RockyMtnSoxFan
06-05-2008, 07:37 PM
Does anybody know how the draft order works beyond the first round? I believe that the second round has to do with losing free agents, but the Phillies have two picks there, and who did they lose besides Kyle Lohse? And the order for the third round is very strange.

Sockinchisox
06-05-2008, 08:14 PM
Story from whitesox.com

Sox fill need with Beckham (http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080605&content_id=2845761&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws)

- He's going to start either at Kanny or Winston-Salem.
- They say they like him at short but he could move to second or third.
- Sox were thrilled to get him
- The g word is mentioned

Frater Perdurabo
06-05-2008, 08:21 PM
- They say they like him at short but he could move to second or third.

IMHO it would ideal if he could play a good defensive third base.

That way, Fields could play 1B after Paulie's contract expires, and you'd have Richar and Ramirez up the middle, and Quentin, BA and Swish in the OF. Then all we need is a left-handed DH, and the 2011 offense is set!
:D:

Sockinchisox
06-05-2008, 08:28 PM
Story from whitesox.com

Sox fill need with Beckham (http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080605&content_id=2845761&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws)

- He's going to start either at Kanny or Winston-Salem.
- They say they like him at short but he could move to second or third.
- Sox were thrilled to get him

Evman5
06-05-2008, 08:42 PM
He sort of reminds me of how Joe Crede looks.

Good call but I think Beckham actually looks like the love child of Actor Chris Cooper and Joe Crede.

http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/27/chris_cooper5breach.jpg:crede

http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics28/400/FE/FEZEJVSVNCJXHTD.20070105200108.jpg

jabrch
06-05-2008, 09:07 PM
Keith Law likes the pick.

Linky (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2008/news/story?id=3427340)

Who gives a crap what Keith Law thinks?

I'd be curious to hear the opinion of people like Callis who see all of these guys.

btrain929
06-05-2008, 09:50 PM
Good call but I think Beckham actually looks like the love child of Actor Chris Cooper and Joe Crede.

http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/27/chris_cooper5breach.jpg:crede

http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics28/400/FE/FEZEJVSVNCJXHTD.20070105200108.jpg

He looks like Gavin Floyd's younger brother.

KyWhiSoxFan
06-05-2008, 10:42 PM
IMHO it would ideal if he could play a good defensive third base.

That way, Fields could play 1B after Paulie's contract expires, and you'd have Richar and Ramirez up the middle, and Quentin, BA and Swish in the OF. Then all we need is a left-handed DH, and the 2011 offense is set!
:D:

The way Konerko is going, I'm not sure he'll be around to let his contract expire with the Sox.

jcw218
06-05-2008, 11:55 PM
Just wondering...who is his agent?

Lip

I do not know if this would be the agent or not, but according to the article (http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080605&content_id=2845761&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws) on White Sox.com he lists his family advisor as Mike Milchen of SFX.

TomBradley72
06-06-2008, 12:15 AM
That's OK...I seem to recall a few other top Sox shortstops who weren't very "big"...guys like Aparicio and Guillen.

Lip

and Harry Chappas.

slavko
06-06-2008, 12:29 AM
You joke (I know you do because you're in teal, probably redundantly), but after Robin Ventura was drafted in the first round at the end of a college career that included a 58-game hitting streak that I believe was ended by Jack McDowell, the Sox completely changed the way he hit. Walt Hriniak was coaching at the time.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but Robin started his career with something like 0 for 40? Right? Some would say he never realized the potential he showed in college as a hitter. Walt's way or the highway....

delben91
06-06-2008, 07:13 AM
Who gives a crap what Keith Law thinks?

I'd be curious to hear the opinion of people like Callis who see all of these guys.

According to Phil Rogers (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-080605-phil-rogers-mlb-draft-chicago-white-sox,1,5667871.column), Callis loves the pick.

Phil implies the Sox should've tanked last September, rather than finishing strong, to get the #2 pick and take Posey, he also thinks there's a chance the Cubs first pick will be in their bullpen before the end of the year.

Craig Grebeck
06-06-2008, 09:03 AM
The funny thing about this pick is that everyone seems to love it except for Sox fans. All the guys about Baseball Prospectus said it was a great pick.

For those of you bitching about Smoak -- get over it. If you take a first baseman over a middle infielder at that spot in the draft, you better be damn sure he is a guaranteed .950 -1.000 OPS guy. The fact that the Reds and Royals both drafted first baseman that weren't Smoak ahead of the Sox told me his value was inflated by this board.

Beckham is quite good. He will advance quickly. I'll trust the scouts on this one.

balke
06-06-2008, 09:08 AM
I can't complain about any pick cause I know nothing about it. I am curious to see if the Sox try getting Jordan Danks still. Did he go undrafted?

EDIT: Oh, I see he's a Boras client. Forget him, and I'm glad he didn't get drafted. The more bad press for Boras the better, I hope players start wising up to stay away from the guy.

oeo
06-06-2008, 09:13 AM
Phil implies the Sox should've tanked last September, rather than finishing strong, to get the #2 pick and take Posey

More evidence towards Phil Rogers being completely insane.

balke
06-06-2008, 09:15 AM
More evidence towards Phil Rogers being completely insane.


Hahaha. What an idiot. Did he see the team they put out there? You can't try to tank much more than that. Luis Terrero was still getting playing time in September.

doublem23
06-06-2008, 09:47 AM
The funny thing about this pick is that everyone seems to love it except for Sox fans. All the guys about Baseball Prospectus said it was a great pick.

For those of you bitching about Smoak -- get over it. If you take a first baseman over a middle infielder at that spot in the draft, you better be damn sure he is a guaranteed .950 -1.000 OPS guy. The fact that the Reds and Royals both drafted first baseman that weren't Smoak ahead of the Sox told me his value was inflated by this board.

Beckham is quite good. He will advance quickly. I'll trust the scouts on this one.

:?: Obviously you missed post #1, 2, 3, 7, and 16 in this thread...

Will people please stop posting in this thread as if Beckham or Smoak or anyone else is a guaranteed thing? Baseball scouting is an complete inexact science. When the Sox nabbed Joe Borchard, he was considered to be a "Todd Helton" clone, except that he played OF and could switch hit (which only made him more valuable).

The key now is development. In the last 25 years there have maybe been 3 "sure thing" players in the draft; Griffey, A-Rod, and Hamilton. After that, it's just a game of guessing and developing.

GregO23
06-06-2008, 01:00 PM
We got Jordan Danks.

thedudeabides
06-06-2008, 01:54 PM
We got Jordan Danks.

With the 210th overall pick. Which is funny, because I remembering people in other threads saying Kenny was so in love with him, he might reach and take him in the first round. :D:

oeo
06-06-2008, 02:00 PM
With the 210th overall pick. Which is funny, because I remembering people in other threads saying Kenny was so in love with him, he might reach and take him in the first round. :D:

He did drop a lot farther than expected. There's speculation in the draft thread that he wants first round money, which would explain him dropping.

KenBerryGrab
06-06-2008, 02:34 PM
He did drop a lot farther than expected. There's speculation in the draft thread that he wants first round money, which would explain him dropping.

Yes. he's a Boras client, but his bubble had been deflating otherwise anyway.

GregO23
06-06-2008, 05:26 PM
what kinda of leverage does he have? what year is he?

GregO23
06-06-2008, 05:42 PM
found out danks is a junior, so he probably will want first round money

SoxGirl4Life
06-06-2008, 06:16 PM
The funny thing about this pick is that everyone seems to love it except for Sox fans. ...



You're surprised at this?

Daver
06-06-2008, 06:23 PM
The funny thing about this pick is that everyone seems to love it except for Sox fans.

Painting with a broad brush again?


I like the pick, but I am also not expecting to see him on the club in 2010.

Frater Perdurabo
06-06-2008, 08:22 PM
Painting with a broad brush again?


I like the pick, but I am also not expecting to see him on the club in 2010.

Does that mean you think he'll take longer to develop? Or that he'll be dealt? Or that he'll get promoted in 2009 and suck and be out of baseball in 2010?
:redneck

In all seriousness, where do you think he'll be in, say, 2012? Do you think he'll be moved to a different position? Also, do you think the Sox have the developmental aptitude to coach him to develop all of his skills, or do you think they will try to turn him into a power hitter?

Daver
06-06-2008, 08:34 PM
Does that mean you think he'll take longer to develop? Or that he'll be dealt? Or that he'll get promoted in 2009 and suck and be out of baseball in 2010?
:redneck

In all seriousness, where do you think he'll be in, say, 2012? Do you think he'll be moved to a different position? Also, do you think the Sox have the developmental aptitude to coach him to develop all of his skills, or do you think they will try to turn him into a power hitter?

In 2012 he could be selling used cars, or he could be the starting SS for the Sox. Buddy Bell is making sweeping changes throughout the entire minor league system, I can only hope they are for the better.

I don't see why they would move him to a different position, he's a pretty damn good SS, and won't need a lot of development other than adjusting to better pitching. He already is a power hitter, and he has proven he can do it with a wood bat.

Frater Perdurabo
06-06-2008, 08:56 PM
In 2012 he could be selling used cars, or he could be the starting SS for the Sox. Buddy Bell is making sweeping changes throughout the entire minor league system, I can only hope they are for the better.

I don't see why they would move him to a different position, he's a pretty damn good SS, and won't need a lot of development other than adjusting to better pitching. He already is a power hitter, and he has proven he can do it with a wood bat.

What kinds of sweeping changes is Bell making?

Daver
06-06-2008, 09:02 PM
What kinds of sweeping changes is Bell making?

Rumor has it they are going to change the way you advance through the system, that alone is a huge step in the right direction.

Frater Perdurabo
06-06-2008, 09:20 PM
Rumor has it they are going to change the way you advance through the system, that alone is a huge step in the right direction.

So that means players will actually have to, you know, play their positions and execute fundamentals? Perish the thought!

soltrain21
06-06-2008, 09:21 PM
Rumor has it they are going to change the way you advance through the system, that alone is a huge step in the right direction.

How did they do it before? I guess I never paid much attention, but I thought all teams did it somewhat the same...?

dij22
06-10-2008, 03:57 AM
So that means players will actually have to, you know, play their positions and execute fundamentals?

Exactly. For years this team has been plagued by the catcher calling signals from behind second base and batters holding the bat upside down.

The farm system has sucked not because players didn't learn to "play their positions" or "execute fundamentals", but because of a organization-wide philosophy that stressed attitudes about being a grinder and playing with heart and other bull****. Instead, they should have been drafting players with high ceilings, players who have good pitch recognition and the ability to get on base most of all.

Ziggy S
06-10-2008, 09:25 AM
Why did we draft soccer player in his thirties in the first round? Oh, NM ha ha ha.

BadBobbyJenks
06-23-2008, 08:42 PM
If you want to see Gordon Beckham he is coming up for Georgia on ESPN 2 this inning(bottom of the 8th). I think he is due up second.

Frater Perdurabo
06-23-2008, 08:48 PM
And he goes yard!

...
06-23-2008, 08:50 PM
Clutch.

BadBobbyJenks
06-23-2008, 08:50 PM
And he goes yard!

He certainly did!:bandance:

WS in 05
06-23-2008, 08:55 PM
Go Bulldogs:redneck

BadBobbyJenks
06-23-2008, 09:08 PM
And that is a Georgia Winner!

I can't wait for the first Farmer "a bloop and a Beckham blast and the White Sox can take the lead."

SouthSide2Ship
06-23-2008, 09:28 PM
Goooo Dawgs!!!!!!

btrain929
06-23-2008, 10:00 PM
Well maybe if he makes some errors in the final 2 games and puts up a couple 0-fers, he'll feel like **** and not ask for so much money as supposed to him leading his college team to a national championship and him playing his ass off, then expecting buttloads of cash from JR....

Frater Perdurabo
06-23-2008, 10:02 PM
The last time I was this excited about a Sox #1 draft choice of a position player was 1989, when the Sox drafted The Big Hurt.

I'm not saying that Beckham will have a career like Frank's. I'm just saying that I'm excited.

I'll be satisfied if he's just the next Robin Ventura. :D:

UofCSoxFan
06-23-2008, 10:02 PM
Kid's a stud. Earlier in the game he hit a line drive to the wall in straight away center that was run down.

jabrch
06-23-2008, 10:05 PM
The last time I was this excited about a Sox #1 draft choice of a position player was 1989, when the Sox drafted The Big Hurt.

Amazing what happens when you draft in the top 10...

palehozenychicty
06-24-2008, 08:33 AM
Amazing what happens when you draft in the top 10...


Yeah, you get guys that can play! :D:

hawkjt
06-24-2008, 12:46 PM
for some reason I think about a young Robin Yount...natural hitter,can play anywhere, athlete.

VeeckAsInWreck
06-24-2008, 04:28 PM
Amazing what happens when you draft in the top 10...

:scratch: So maybe the 2007 was a godsend?

FedEx227
06-24-2008, 04:59 PM
:scratch: So maybe the 2007 was a godsend?

No.

You can get good players in other rounds too.

Beckham is great now, but it's what the Sox do with him over the next 2 years that matter.

jabrch
06-24-2008, 05:16 PM
:scratch: So maybe the 2007 was a godsend?

Sometimes good comes in the wake of disaster?

If we are able to sign a few of the remaining guys in this draft class (Beckham, Danks, Upchurch, Weaver and then maybe one or two of the later HS kids) it won't make up for how much 2007 sucked, but in 3-5 years we may have some fond memories from 2007.

That said, like any major league draft, it could always suck too. MLB draft is a complete and total crapshoot. Other than those that throw an absolute ton of money at paying over slot (usually also those who can afford to do it without impacting their MLB payroll) or those few teams that have sucked for an extended period of time, teams are all hit or miss in terms of the ability to convert draft picks into MLB talent.

EndemicSox
06-24-2008, 07:34 PM
Is it a bad thing that this kid is, by far, the best thing going for the CWS minor league system? Can't wait till 2011 or so!

KyWhiSoxFan
06-24-2008, 08:36 PM
No.

You can get good players in other rounds too.

Beckham is great now, but it's what the Sox do with him over the next 2 years that matter.

In two years' time, I hope it's what Beckham does for the Sox and not what the Sox do with him.

UofCSoxFan
06-24-2008, 08:46 PM
In two years' time, I hope it's what Beckham does for the Sox and not what the Sox do with him.

Ask not what your major league baseball team can do for you, but what you can do for your major league baseball team...or something like that.

MetroPD
06-24-2008, 09:04 PM
for some reason I think about a young Robin Yount...natural hitter,can play anywhere, athlete.
Uh what? He's in college, he hasn't played a single MLB level game. Yes he looks good, but before you compare him to a hall of famer, lets see what he can do first.

WhiteSoxFan84
06-25-2008, 02:41 AM
Wasn't Brian Anderson unreal in college also? I like BA and I like this Beckham kid but our minor league system has been crap lately. In the late 90s/early 00s we developed some SOLID talent: Buehrle, C-Lee, Maggs, Crede, to name a few. But since then, nada. Danks, Floyd, Quentin, Alexei, Jenks, and Thornton have been solid, but all of those guys weren't drafted nor were they developed by us. Cooper, Walker, and others tweaked everyone of them to make them better but nonetheless, they were never ours from the beginning.

jabrch
06-25-2008, 07:12 AM
Wasn't Brian Anderson unreal in college also? I like BA and I like this Beckham kid but our minor league system has been crap lately. In the late 90s/early 00s we developed some SOLID talent: Buehrle, C-Lee, Maggs, Crede, to name a few. But since then, nada. Danks, Floyd, Quentin, Alexei, Jenks, and Thornton have been solid, but all of those guys weren't drafted nor were they developed by us. Cooper, Walker, and others tweaked everyone of them to make them better but nonetheless, they were never ours from the beginning.

But to get them we traded McCarthy, Reed, Olivo, Carter, Borchard, etc. We brought Jenks up through our farm after LAA quit on him.

Our farm system was good enough to get us nearly all those guys (sans Alexei and Jenks) and did develop Bobby into what he is.

kba
06-25-2008, 10:01 AM
Long story (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AgFllqF78xgOMindOWmz.7kRvLYF?slug=jp-beckham062508&prov=yhoo&type=lgns) on Beckham from Jeff Passan. He'll certainly be used to media spotlight once he gets to the pros.

soxfanreggie
06-25-2008, 11:55 PM
Great season Beckham, can't wait for this signing to be announced.

MeteorsSox4367
06-26-2008, 08:49 AM
On the CWS broadcast last night, Herhiser mentioned that Beckham could project to play third, short or second when he arrives in the bigs. I'm just excited to see what the kid can do once he arrives on 35th Street.

I also find it intriguing that Beckham bears a resemblance to Jason Hervey, who played Wayne Arnold on "The Wonder Years."

Tekijawa
06-26-2008, 01:25 PM
He hit a homerun with no one on last night too, he'll fit on this team perfectly!

He really impressed me, Sign him, put him at First or DH tomorrow! He's better than half the jokes we have swinging for the fences right now! And Walker hasn't fixed him yet.

Rockabilly
06-26-2008, 01:39 PM
Hopefully he will be visiting the cell this weekend, especially with us playing the North Side team

KyWhiSoxFan
06-26-2008, 01:52 PM
The Sox need to sign him and get him into the minor league system ASAP. I'd like to see him in Birmingham by next year. (Not that I'm, trying to rush him.)