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Lillian
05-26-2008, 08:38 AM
Some of us have advocated this for some time now, but Fields was nursing an injury to a knee ligament. He is playing again, and has hit three homers in his last 3 games. He needs to be brought up as soon as possible. At the very least he should DH for Thome against Lefties. I know that Thome has done relatively better vs Lefties this year, but he has historically not been good, and is still in a horrible slump.

Fields has proven that he can hit at the Major League Level, and an offense that is struggling as badly as the Sox are simply can't afford to have a bat of his caliber at AAA.

Adding him now would also give the Sox a left handed bat off the bench, when Thome is sitting.

Maybe having another hungry young player in the lineup will infuse a little energy into this very tired looking offense. I hope they move on this recommendation quickly, and that it will be enough.

Rockin Robin
05-26-2008, 09:04 AM
Whatever, it's fine by me as long as I don't have to watch Jim Thome roll balls to the right side anymore.

MeanFish
05-26-2008, 09:07 AM
Some of us have advocated this for some time now, but Fields was nursing an injury to a knee ligament. He is playing again, and has hit three homers in his last 3 games. He needs to be brought up as soon as possible. At the very least he should DH for Thome against Lefties. I know that Thome has done relatively better vs Lefties this year, but he has historically not been good, and is still in a horrible slump.

Fields has proven that he can hit at the Major League Level, and an offense that is struggling as badly as the Sox are simply can't afford to have a bat of his caliber at AAA.

Adding him now would also give the Sox a left handed bat off the bench, when Thome is sitting.

Maybe having another hungry young player in the lineup will infuse a little energy into this very tired looking offense. I hope they move on this recommendation quickly, and that it will be enough.

I'd like to see them start trying him out at first base. Ideally, Dye moves to DH, Quentin to right, Swisher to left, Anderson in center, Fields to first, Paulie goes on the DL, and Thome starts getting some days off.

Of course, I'm just a goofy fan. The above could work, though.

Red Barchetta
05-26-2008, 09:33 AM
Whatever, it's fine by me as long as I don't have to watch Jim Thome roll balls to the right side anymore.

Imagine what the Chicago media would be writing about Thomas was hitting this bad...

Brian26
05-26-2008, 09:44 AM
I'd like to see them start trying him out at first base. Ideally, Dye moves to DH, Quentin to right, Swisher to left, Anderson in center, Fields to first, Paulie goes on the DL, and Thome starts getting some days off.

I like the idea of bringing up Fields to platoon with Thome at DH and to provide a big bat off the bench late in the game.

I don't like the idea of trying to shove him in the lineup and learn a new position in the middle of a pennant race though.

delben91
05-26-2008, 09:46 AM
I hope they move on this recommendation quickly, and that it will be enough.

Gosh, if only the White Sox had been listening to you all along, they would've won the world series every single year...

Frater Perdurabo
05-26-2008, 09:51 AM
I too think that Fields is destined for DH or 1B, but they also have to prepare for the possibility that Crede leaves and Fields has to play 3B.

If Crede were to be signed, or had another year or two on his contract, I'd immediately have Fields start playing 1B.

Although I really, really hope Thome recovers and starts hitting (and walking) again, we have to face the unfortunate possibility that he might be done.

Save McCuddy's
05-26-2008, 09:57 AM
Why all the impatience with Thome with scarcely a mention of how disappointing Swisher has been?

btrain929
05-26-2008, 09:59 AM
I like the idea of bringing up Fields to platoon with Thome at DH and to provide a big bat off the bench late in the game.

I don't like the idea of trying to shove him in the lineup and learn a new position in the middle of a pennant race though.

Very true. I think we can find him plenty of at bats from DH vs lefties, late inning pinch hits, and giving Crede 2 days off a week at 3rd to keep him fresh for the end of the season.

Lillian
05-26-2008, 10:07 AM
Gosh, if only the White Sox had been listening to you all along, they would've won the world series every single year...

I'm pretty sure that Sox management is already contemplating such a move, and that they aren't reading my humble recommendations anyway. What I meant is that I hope that they do it quickly, and that it will be sufficient to shake the veterans out of their malaise.
Do you disagree with this suggestion?

soxpride724
05-26-2008, 10:11 AM
I'm pretty sure that Sox management is already contemplating such a move, and that they aren't reading my humble recommendations anyway. What I meant is that I hope that they do it quickly, and that it will be sufficient to shake the veterans out of their malaise.
Do you disagree with this suggestion?


I couldn't agree more, and I hope something is done soon. I know we are in first place but we need to change something in this lineup.

delben91
05-26-2008, 10:12 AM
I'm pretty sure that Sox management is already contemplating such a move, and that they aren't reading my humble recommendations anyway. What I meant is that I hope that they do it quickly, and that it will be sufficient to shake the veterans out of their malaise.
Do you disagree with this suggestion?

No, I agree with your suggestion (although if/once PK and Uribe come off the DL, I wonder who they'll send down to make a roster spot for him...perhaps Wassermann). I think if he's healthy he can definitely provide a more potent bat than Thome currently is, though I still won't expect much more than a .265 average from Fields, his slugging numbers will likely be solid.

What always bugs me on this site, and I apologize if I misread the intent of your post and inferred this incorrectly, is the number of posters that feel so many moves are "obvious" and that the only reason Ozzie and KW don't make them is because both men are just far more stupid than the average fan and know so little about the game that roster moves are beyond their comprehension.

Lillian
05-26-2008, 10:26 AM
No, I agree with your suggestion (although if/once PK and Uribe come off the DL, I wonder who they'll send down to make a roster spot for him...perhaps Wassermann). I think if he's healthy he can definitely provide a more potent bat than Thome currently is, though I still won't expect much more than a .265 average from Fields, his slugging numbers will likely be solid.

What always bugs me on this site, and I apologize if I misread the intent of your post and inferred this incorrectly, is the number of posters that feel so many moves are "obvious" and that the only reason Ozzie and KW don't make them is because both men are just far more stupid than the average fan and know so little about the game that roster moves are beyond their comprehension.

Thanks for the clarification, and no apology is necessary.
You're right about some fans thinking that only they know better than management. I personally have great respect for both Ozzie and K.W.
They have done a great job, and I usually agree with almost everything that they do. When I do disagree, I try to be patient, and not judge the results prematurely. That said, it is fun to play G.M., or even manager. That is part of the game's appeal, and the joy of participating in these discussions.

southside rocks
05-26-2008, 10:28 AM
I can't think of an instance where a MLB club brought a young player up from Triple-A and made him a DH. Have there been any, and I just can't think of them?

Fields has ability in the field and I'd be surprised if the Sox wanted to limit him to a DH role at this point in his developing career.

I'd really like to see Thome out of the lineup -- with all respect to the man and what he's achieved in his career, he's not getting the job done this year and there haven't been any signs that he can still do it, at least IMO. I don't think Paulie's ready to quit playing first, but I think having him and Swish share the 1B and DH roles could be interesting.

I'm assuming, of course, that both PK and Swisher are going to start producing with the bat pretty soon (like tonight).

BadBobbyJenks
05-26-2008, 10:44 AM
I can't think of an instance where a MLB club brought a young player up from Triple-A and made him a DH. Have there been any, and I just can't think of them?

Fields has ability in the field and I'd be surprised if the Sox wanted to limit him to a DH role at this point in his developing career.

I'd really like to see Thome out of the lineup -- with all respect to the man and what he's achieved in his career, he's not getting the job done this year and there haven't been any signs that he can still do it, at least IMO. I don't think Paulie's ready to quit playing first, but I think having him and Swish share the 1B and DH roles could be interesting.

I'm assuming, of course, that both PK and Swisher are going to start producing with the bat pretty soon (like tonight).

Billy Butler DHs for the Royal I believe.

DumpJerry
05-26-2008, 10:56 AM
Fields is not going to be playing First. Sox mgmt has said that over and over. They have not trotted him out at that position at all. He is not, nor will be, our First Baseman.

Nor will he DH. He strikes out as much as Thome.

BainesHOF
05-26-2008, 11:36 AM
We have a chance to win the division and beyond, we're dying to score runs and one of our best hitters is sitting in the minors. It makes no sense whatsoever. Fields does indeed need to be brought up and inserted into the lineup now.

southside rocks
05-26-2008, 11:41 AM
Billy Butler DHs for the Royal I believe.

You are right, I didn't think of him. He is in his second season in the bigs and so far this year he's DH'ed in 28 games and played 1B in 20 -- he's got a .995 fielding avg at first, which isn't too shabby.

From his bio stats, it seems like he was just too good a hitter for KC to not keep him on the roster. Interesting. Isn't Gload the regular 1B for the Royals? They have some depth there -- maybe they'd send Gload back to the Sox in exchange for Thome. :redneck

voodoochile
05-26-2008, 11:45 AM
I like the idea of bringing up Fields to platoon with Thome at DH and to provide a big bat off the bench late in the game.

I don't like the idea of trying to shove him in the lineup and learn a new position in the middle of a pennant race though.

I agree. Oh and like it or not, Thome is still on pace to hit 30+ HR this season.

FedEx227
05-26-2008, 11:46 AM
Billy Butler DHs for the Royal I believe.

Jason Botts from Texas last year. It happens a lot actually.

The Immigrant
05-26-2008, 12:00 PM
Thome's splits this year are what troubles me the most: vs. Left: .234 vs. Right: .188

He used to absolutely kill righties before this year.

As far as him being on pace to hit 30 HR, that might have been the case at the end of April. He has only 3 HR in May.

fquaye149
05-26-2008, 12:01 PM
Fields is not going to be playing First. Sox mgmt has said that over and over. They have not trotted him out at that position at all. He is not, nor will be, our First Baseman.

Nor will he DH. He strikes out as much as Thome.

What on earth does this mean?

RockJock07
05-26-2008, 12:13 PM
As some have said on this site before, fan favorites like Paulie and Jim are great guys but aren't hitting, I'm sick and tired of watching them be bad.

Josh should have been up here all along but now is a good as time as ever, this team needs a spark, TCQ can't carry this team because if he tries, teams are gonna pitch around him and then we are back at square one. I will praise KW and Ozzie for what they have done this off-season, linebrink and TCQ but you need to put the best players on the field everyday that give you the best chance to win, Konerko and Thome aren't those guys right now.

jabrch
05-26-2008, 12:16 PM
It is suicide on so many levels to make an impulsive move like this...

1) Fields value to this franchise will be when he plays 3B next year. If he spends most of the rest of this year platooning DH and maybe playing a game a week at 3B, it will retard his development for when we plan to need him - the future.

2) Jim Thome can easily return to something close to his numbers last year.

3) Before getting hurt, Fields wasn't tearing it up either.


Settle down kids - relax. We are 30% done with the season and we are in first place. Cleveland has no pen and just lost one of their best SP for a month. Detroit has major pitching problems. The Twins don't look like they have it with Neshek down and Liriano not right.

We can make an impulsive move and cut Jim Thome at his knees, or we can have faith and stay the course. I'm all for the course - it has us in first place on Memorial Day.

jabrch
05-26-2008, 12:22 PM
I'm pretty sure that Sox management is already contemplating such a move

I'd be shocked if they are considering retarding Fields' development to put Thome on the bench to "fix" a first place team.

fquaye149
05-26-2008, 12:24 PM
I'd be shocked if they are considering retarding Fields' development to put Thome on the bench to "fix" a first place team.

:rolling:

As if us being in first has anything to do with the fact that we need to improve our lineup.

Chicken Dinner
05-26-2008, 12:25 PM
The only way Fields will be brought up before September 1st is:

A) Joe Crede is injured

B) We fall so far out of contension that Joe Crede is traded.

btrain929
05-26-2008, 12:26 PM
Thome's splits this year are what troubles me the most: vs. Left: .234 vs. Right: .188

He used to absolutely kill righties before this year.

As far as him being on pace to hit 30 HR, that might have been the case at the end of April. He has only 3 HR in May.

Until he decided this year to get as close to the plate as possible and jam himself every single at bat. He must be paranoid that he can't get to the outside pitch, so he crowds the plate. Now he can't extend his arms on inside fastballs vs righties and still looks ridiculous against a slider low and away vs lefties.

btrain929
05-26-2008, 12:26 PM
The only way Fields will be brought up before September 1st is:

A) Joe Crede is injured

B) We fall so far out of contension that Joe Crede is traded.

Or C) Crede is resigned and Fields is traded and brought up before September 1st with his new team.

viagracat
05-26-2008, 12:31 PM
The emergence of Quentin is the biggest reason Fields needs to stay in Charlotte for now. As long as Crede is the third baseman, really the best position for Fields is left field. Obviously, Quentin is the man there for now. So the other possible options are first base and DH. Don't see that happening. You don't bring up a young player to platoon at first or DH. This kid needs to play every day.

Obviously his future hinges on whether we can keep Crede. But for now, I think you let him continue his development in AAA. Maybe he'll get to the point where Crede is expendible (a stretch, I know, but stranger things have happened). Or if we keep Crede, put him in the OF next year and shuffle that around. Don't make the same mistakes the Cubs have been making with Felix Pie.

I do agree with the other posters in this thread that Thome has to step it up at the plate if he wants to stick around, nice guy or not. The middle of the lineup has ben a problem for a couple of years now.

BadBobbyJenks
05-26-2008, 12:33 PM
It is suicide on so many levels to make an impulsive move like this...

1) Fields value to this franchise will be when he plays 3B next year. If he spends most of the rest of this year platooning DH and maybe playing a game a week at 3B, it will retard his development for when we plan to need him - the future.

2) Jim Thome can easily return to something close to his numbers last year.

3) Before getting hurt, Fields wasn't tearing it up either.




2) It may be that Thome is finished as an everyday player.

Elephant
05-26-2008, 12:42 PM
:rolling:

As if us being in first has anything to do with the fact that we need to improve our lineup.

Remember that one time Manuel tinkered with the lineup and they lost that game? They were in first place at the time!

:jerry
If it ain't broke, fix it. P.S. come ready to play

thomas35forever
05-26-2008, 12:44 PM
No he doesn't. He's a third baseman and needs to improve defensively. Making him a DH or first baseman is not going to help. If anything, it's going to set his development back.

UofCSoxFan
05-26-2008, 01:02 PM
I can see Fields being brought up before Sep 1 so he is eligible for the playoff roster...but I don't see it happening anytime soon barring injury.

You don't see Cle giving up on Hafner and Martinez, and their offense is putrid. It's way too early to give up on PK (who is hurt) and Thome.

And yes being in first place is relevant....it means we have the luxury of more time to allow or guys to turn it around before making a desperation move, which bringing Fields up would be at this point, given he has no position to play and would immediately make our defense worse.

turners56
05-26-2008, 01:06 PM
With Uribe on the DL and the useless Dwayne Wise taking a roster spot here, it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring up Fields right now.

Frater Perdurabo
05-26-2008, 01:16 PM
You don't see Cle giving up on Hafner and Martinez, and their offense is putrid. It's way too early to give up on PK (who is hurt) and Thome.

Hafner and Martinez are 30 and 29, respectively. Both are still in their prime. Thome is 37 and clearly on the downside of his career.

I think Paulie's deal is that he's a notoriously slow starter and he has the nagging hand injury.

Again, I desperately want Thome to start hitting and walking and homering again. I hope he hits #600 with the Sox sometime in 2009. But we have to accept the possibility that he might be done.

Lillian
05-26-2008, 01:35 PM
Hafner and Martinez are 30 and 29, respectively. Both are still in their prime. Thome is 37 and clearly on the downside of his career.

Again, I desperately want Thome to start hitting and walking and homering again. I hope he hits #600 with the Sox sometime in 2009. But we have to accept the possibility that he might be done.

Your point is very valid. This is the risk of depending upon an aging veteran.
It is very difficult to determine when an extended period of poor performance is more the result of declining skill, rather than a mere slump.

By platooning him with Fields, it would give Jim one less thing to worry about, and adjust to. He could concentrate solely upon trying to go back to whatever used to work for him vs. righties. If he can't even hit them, he just may be finished. I don't think that it's reasonable to expect him to suddenly start hitting lefties.

Domeshot17
05-26-2008, 01:51 PM
Here is the problem with the thinking, and Ive been a huge Fields backer here.

Thome still has the power, and while he may no longer be a 280 40 hr guy, I dont think he is this 200 20 hr guy either. I have said sit him down for a few days to let him relax a little, but at the end of the day benching Thome is not what will get him out of this. At 37 years old, he has to hit his way out of it. It is just that simple. The only way Jim will get hot is by playing.

Like it or not, if this team is going to be as good as it can, we will need Thome and Konerko to start hitting. Fields lacks the ability to hit for Average enough to come up and give us a Carlos Quentin like push.

Add to the fact its the entire offense in this funk not named Quentin and Cabrera (who has been turning it up the last few games), and we need a lot of help. AJ has been aweful since moving to the 2 hole. Crede hasn't done much lately, Dye has been streaky. Konerko I think will come back strong when his hand heals. I don't know if anyone has tried to hold a bat (or even a broom or hammer or anything) with a bag hand injury, and you have no control, so you compensate. When hitters start to compensate, bad things happen.

You want a major impact for a playoff race, Kenny needs to call up Baltimore, find out what package gets Brian Roberts (who can play 2b and lead off), and make that happen. That would be better for this team.

JB98
05-26-2008, 01:55 PM
I think Josh Fields should stay in the minors and play third base everyday. He needs to work on his defense. I would only recall him if Crede gets injured.

The Sox are in first place. They have the luxury of being patient with struggling players like Thome and Swisher.

There is no need to make desperation moves when you are ahead of the pack.

SoxandtheCityTee
05-26-2008, 01:57 PM
Your point is very valid. This is the risk of depending upon an aging veteran. It is very difficult to determine when an extended period of poor performance is more the result of declining skill, rather than a mere slump.

And this is why I've given up hope, at least for now, on the idea that Thome will sit at all, even vs. lefties. I figure that those in control figure that there is still too much of the season and too much of chance that he will revive, and that missing ABs could in some way screw that process up, so he must play. Ironically, if Thome started really to hit well, it might be easier to sit him now and again, since that would be "normal." But until he does -- or until something else changes, like another losing streak, God forbid -- we're going to see him out there trying. That's my guess, anyway.

TDog
05-26-2008, 02:02 PM
I dread when the Sox have to bring up Josh Fields, not just because he won't help the Sox win but because at WSI his hitting problems will be blamed on management not making him an important part of the team when it broke spring training camp.

GAsoxfan
05-26-2008, 04:56 PM
If the Sox decide to bench Thome, I'd rather see Anderson in center with Konerko & Dye sharing DH duties. Anderson may not be have Fields' slugging numbers, but I think he could put up about the same BA & OBP and improve the team's defense.

gobears1987
05-26-2008, 05:44 PM
And this is why I've given up hope, at least for now, on the idea that Thome will sit at all, even vs. lefties. Jim Thome is killing lefties this year and sucking against righties. Why sit him down against lefties?

munchman33
05-26-2008, 06:15 PM
I'd rather keep Fields working at third. If we're going to bench/release Jim, I'd rather go out and get a legit CF, move Swisher over, and DH Dye.

Brian26
05-26-2008, 06:57 PM
Jim Thome is killing lefties this year and sucking against righties. Why sit him down against lefties?

Is that supposed to be in teal? He's not killing anyone except the Sox.
(.234 vs LHP, .188 vs RHP)

INSox56
05-26-2008, 07:03 PM
Is that supposed to be in teal? He's not killing anyone except the Sox.
(.234 vs LHP, .188 vs RHP)

My first quote in probably 2 months to say....:lol:

Daver
05-26-2008, 07:12 PM
I really don't know what you are going to gain by replacing a left handed hitter that strikes out a lot with a right handed hitter that strikes out a lot, but I also never claimed to be the sharpest tool in the shed either.

The Dude
05-26-2008, 08:26 PM
Why all the impatience with Thome with scarcely a mention of how disappointing Swisher has been?

Because WSI hates Thome and longs for Thomas regardless of how they perform.

Swisher has been absolutely brutal as well. Crede isn't playing very well either and should be spelled as well.

Evman5
05-26-2008, 08:46 PM
Take that Thome haters!!! Seriously it's just one homer...but i hope big Jim gets on track soon

Frater Perdurabo
05-26-2008, 09:02 PM
I really don't know what you are going to gain by replacing a left handed hitter that strikes out a lot with a right handed hitter that strikes out a lot, but I also never claimed to be the sharpest tool in the shed either.

You've never really been much of a fan of Fields, have you?

fquaye149
05-26-2008, 09:03 PM
I really don't know what you are going to gain by replacing a left handed hitter that strikes out a lot with a right handed hitter that strikes out a lot, but I also never claimed to be the sharpest tool in the shed either.

Probably because Fields is likely to hit above .210 :shrug:

That said, I wouldn't be crazy about bringing Fields up to DH

Daver
05-26-2008, 09:26 PM
You've never really been much of a fan of Fields, have you?

I think the people that view him as the answer to this teams problems are way off the mark, he is a below average defensive third baseman that strikes out a lot against minor league pitching, those numbers won't improve against MLB pitching. He has done nothing to convince me that his K rate justifies any confidence, where as Thome has a history of justifying his K rate.

Mohoney
05-27-2008, 05:32 AM
I can't think of an instance where a MLB club brought a young player up from Triple-A and made him a DH. Have there been any, and I just can't think of them?

I believe that Carlos Delgado saw some extended time at DH as a young player in Toronto.

TDog
05-27-2008, 06:32 AM
Probably because Fields is likely to hit above .210 :shrug:

That said, I wouldn't be crazy about bringing Fields up to DH

Jim Thome is likely to hit above .210.

If Josh Fields was a slick fielder, I wouldn't mind suffering though the rough offensive days he is likely to face when he returns to the major leagues.

Hitters that strike out at the rate Fields did in his rookie season, as well as the rate he continues to strike out in AAA, often don't adjust when the league exploits their demonstrated weaknesses.

I would feel much better about fields if he were working working on making more contact in Charlotte. People complain about Thome's strikeouts, but AAA pitchers are stirking out Fields at a higher rate than major league pitchers are striking out Thome.

Lillian
05-27-2008, 10:23 AM
I understand that not playing every day, and hitting in the DH spot rather than getting more experience at Third, may not be the best for Josh's development, but it might be the best for this team.
While he does strike out too much, his strike outs weren't that bad vs. Lefties last year, especially considering his production:


He hit .321 with a .371 OBP.
He hit 11 homers and 7 doubles in just 106 at bats. He also drove in 25 runs.
Slugging % .698 OPS 1.069
He struck out 35 times.

When has Thome had that kind of production vs. Lefties?

voodoochile
05-27-2008, 10:27 AM
I understand that not playing every day, and hitting in the DH spot rather than getting more experience at Third, may not be the best for Josh's development, but it might be the best for this team.
While he does strike out too much, his strike outs weren't that bad vs. Lefties last year, especially considering his production:


He hit .321 with a .371 OBP.
He hit 11 homers and 7 doubles in just 106 at bats. He also drove in 25 runs.
Slugging % .698 OPS 1.069
He struck out 35 times.

When has Thome had that kind of production vs. Lefties?

Well, this year, Thome is putting up a .906 OPS Vs. LHP and a slg of .609. He has 5 HR and 12 RBI in 48 AB.

Carolina Kenny
05-27-2008, 11:09 AM
Fields is right where he belongs--AAA


Trade Him to Colorado to fufill his Destiny

soxrme
05-27-2008, 11:16 AM
Why all the impatience with Thome with scarcely a mention of how disappointing Swisher has been?
I agree, his 205 BA is a joke. Paulie should go on the dl though if his thumb is that bad. Let Uribe go and bring up Fields and work him in at 1st and occasionally rest Crede.

Lillian
05-27-2008, 11:19 AM
Well, this year, Thome is putting up a .906 OPS Vs. LHP and a slg of .609. He has 5 HR and 12 RBI in 48 AB.

I think that his career stats vs. Lefties should quiet any such arguments, especially at his age:

In 2110 at bats, he is a .240 hitter with a .341 OBP and a .419 Slugging %.
He has struck out 710 times in those 2110 at bats. That's one out of every 3 at bats.

You would have to expect, at his age, that he will not even be that good anymore.

voodoochile
05-27-2008, 11:25 AM
I think that his career stats vs. Lefties should quiet any such arguments, especially at his age:

In 2110 at bats, he is a .240 hitter with a .341 OBP and a .419 Slugging %.
He has struck out 710 times in those 2110 at bats. That's one out of every 3 at bats.

You would have to expect, at his age, that he will not even be that good anymore.

Hey limited sample sizes are great for you, I figured I'd toss one out there too.

Oh and Thome is still on pace to hit 35+ HR this season and half of them have come against lefties...

russ99
05-27-2008, 11:26 AM
Sorta off topic, but in last night's game it's was looking to me that Swisher and Paulie are getting closer to breaking their slumps. They've been getting much better at-bats and are hitting the ball solidly, but usually right at someone...

Thome's been hitting much better since last week.

doublem23
05-27-2008, 11:29 AM
Sorta off topic, but in last night's game it's was looking to me that Swisher and Paulie are getting closer to breaking their slumps. They've been getting much better at-bats and are hitting the ball solidly, but usually right at someone...

Thome's been hitting much better since last week.

Swisher did look pretty good at the plate last night. I don't remember Paulie looking exceptionally good or bad (except on that foul ball that was nearly a HR).

Don't look now, but Cabrera is heating up, too. If he could only curb the ultra-aggressive mental mistakes on the basepaths, though...

Madscout
05-27-2008, 11:31 AM
I agree, his 205 BA is a joke. Paulie should go on the dl though if his thumb is that bad. Let Uribe go and bring up Fields and work him in at 1st and occasionally rest Crede.

I know you're not the first to make this argument, but why the **** would we ever want him at first with PK's contract? He has been a below average defensive 3B who will be a way below average defensive out of position 1B. No speed, no expirience, no defense, and big offensive numbers in a time when we were out of it.

FGarcia34
05-27-2008, 03:22 PM
looking at the bench, it seems to me that we really dont need one of the following 3, Ozuna, Ramirez, and Uribe. They all play the same positions and it would be nice to have Fields on the roster. I feel like his a player that we could find space for in the starting lineup by shuffling people around. Sure, he wouldnt be starting every single game, but he can spell Crede at third occasionally, and against lefties he could either DH or get some time at first to give Paulie a day off. I really want us to bring him up. I really think he would add instant offense.

ajismyhero
05-27-2008, 05:57 PM
looking at the bench, it seems to me that we really dont need one of the following 3, Ozuna, Ramirez, and Uribe. They all play the same positions and it would be nice to have Fields on the roster. I feel like his a player that we could find space for in the starting lineup by shuffling people around. Sure, he wouldnt be starting every single game, but he can spell Crede at third occasionally, and against lefties he could either DH or get some time at first to give Paulie a day off. I really want us to bring him up. I really think he would add instant offense.

I love Josh Fields as much as the next person, but his versatility in defense is why he has not been called up. both Ozuna and Ramirez can play infield and outfield so they're great utility players which is critical to have on a team. IF Fields gets called up, i'd like to see him in pinch-hit role, but that's going to give him the practice or experience he needs to really excel at a major league level.

And what's all this talk about him at 1st base? I think it's more likely for Swish to move to first and BA out in Center than Fields at First.

FGarcia34
05-27-2008, 06:16 PM
yea, the versatility ozuna and ramirez bring to the team is great. i'm just not sure there is a need for both of them to be on the roster if fields is brought up. in that case drop either ozuna or uribe off the team. hopefully uribe. right now we are an average defensive team and thats all we're going to be whether fields is on the team or not. playing him at first, third, and having him dh are all ways to get him in the lineup. he would be adding offense to our team. if he is able to play an average third base along the way, or if given the opportunity to play first would most likely be average. i'm sure its more likely that BA will take over center and swish will play first. however i'm thinking in terms off offense and think it's a great idea to find ways to get hitters in to this lineup especially against left handers who if not mistaken had a great deal of success of of last year. then you can always trickle him in at 3rd and possibly first to give the vets a day off. i really think this is a good idea. i doubt they will do it, but i really think it would help. and i dont necessarily think its a big deal to have a soft platoon with ramirez and ozuna. luckily in that case ramirez can always help at short if cabrera needed a day off.

Against Lefties
SS - Cabrera
2B - Ramirez/Ozuna
LF - Quentin
RF - Dye
1B - Konerko
CF - Swisher
DH - Fields
3B - Crede
C - Hall/Pierzynski

I feel by adding Fields to the roster it simply gives Ozzie another option of just playing "Who's Hot." The key here is dropping Uribe, which i'm absolutely not holding my breath.