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Sockinchisox
05-22-2008, 10:28 PM
8 straight!!

:bandance::bandance::bandance:

Grzegorz
05-22-2008, 10:28 PM
Nice...

Metalthrasher442
05-22-2008, 10:29 PM
How do you spell Carlos Quentin?

M-V-P

so far=]

go sox

rowand33
05-22-2008, 10:29 PM
Sox win.

Twins lose.

Toons lose.

All is right in the world.

8 straight and suddenly with a .565 win percentage look ready to contend in any division.

Our pitching + Carlos Quentin + Jermaine Dye=money

NDSox12
05-22-2008, 10:30 PM
8 in a row and the biggest first place lead in baseball!

Pear-Zin-Ski
05-22-2008, 10:30 PM
How bout that!!!

Mark didnt look amazing tonite...but thank god for the double play....

Great win all around....

rookie
05-22-2008, 10:30 PM
:D: And 8 just happens to be my lucky number!

rowand33
05-22-2008, 10:30 PM
How do you spell Carlos Quentin?

M-V-P

so far=]

go sox

Josh Hamilton might beg to differ. LOVE Quentin. But Hamilton has certainly been the MVP to this point.

Evman5
05-22-2008, 10:30 PM
Great game...clutch hittin when it counts...let's keep it rolling boys!

rdwj
05-22-2008, 10:30 PM
NICE clutch hitting by TCQ and Dye. Very nice start by Buehrle too! Nice to get the SWEEP!!

Madvora
05-22-2008, 10:31 PM
How bout that!!!

Mark didnt look amazing tonite...but thank god for the double play....

Great win all around....
A little deceptive, but he only gave up 2 hits and 1 run. More walks than usual, but by the numbers a very good pitching performance.

DickAllen72
05-22-2008, 10:32 PM
Sox win.

Twins lose.

Toons lose.

All is right in the world.

8 straight and suddenly with a .565 win percentage look ready to contend in any division.

Our pitching + Carlos Quentin + Jermaine Dye=money
Amen on all counts! :bandance::gulp:

voodoochile
05-22-2008, 10:32 PM
And a nice job of role playing by BA...

:winner

:supernana:

:)

WhiteSox5187
05-22-2008, 10:33 PM
Sweep! Sweep! Sweep! Boy, Buerhle looked rough out there but still held them to only two hits and one run. That was big! Eight in a row! No reason to stop now! This team is starting to get me excited!!!

oeo
05-22-2008, 10:33 PM
How bout that!!!

Mark didnt look amazing tonite...but thank god for the double play....

Great win all around....

He had the one rough inning. I thought he looked better in this one than the SF one, though.

The umpire could not stay consistent, so that didn't help with the walks.

manders_01
05-22-2008, 10:33 PM
This...is...AWESOME!!! :bandance:

gobears1987
05-22-2008, 10:33 PM
While the win is great, we have won 8 in a row and are opening a series at home against the Angels. We lose tomorrow and start another 8 game streak on Saturday.

BadBobbyJenks
05-22-2008, 10:33 PM
So this team looks kind of good.

BadBobbyJenks
05-22-2008, 10:34 PM
While the win is great, we have won 8 in a row and are opening a series at home against the Angels. We lose tomorrow and start another 8 game streak on Saturday.

8 game streaks are so 2005, I want to be at the park with a broom for 11 on Sunday night.

sox1970
05-22-2008, 10:34 PM
Tigers 5-1
Indians 4-2

Taking care of business.

WhiteSox5187
05-22-2008, 10:35 PM
While the win is great, we have won 8 in a row and are opening a series at home against the Angels. We lose tomorrow and start another 8 game streak on Saturday.
Why stop now? Let's make it nine and go for TEN on Saturday?!?!?!

Corlose 15
05-22-2008, 10:35 PM
You gotta love the way this team is playing right now.

Buehrle a bit shaky, though the ump was not calling the low strike tonight, but goes 7 strong innings.

Anderson and Quentin both with heads up base running to set up that 8th inning and Jenks and Linebrink both nail it down.


That 0-2 curve to Hafner by Jenks was filthy.:o:


Oh, and 3.5 games up. :supernana::supernana::supernana::bandance:

Madvora
05-22-2008, 10:35 PM
Cleveland with their 6th loss in a row!

Soxman219
05-22-2008, 10:35 PM
It always feels great when they sweep the Wahoos. The clutch hitting continues and this team could go toe-to-toe with any team in baseball. The home-field advantage is helping them out and they have the most home games remaining. This could actually be a special season.:smile:

sullythered
05-22-2008, 10:36 PM
Btw, Scott Linebrink is ****ing awesome.

mccoydp
05-22-2008, 10:36 PM
Damned good game tonight.

Quentin has ice in his veins. Kudos to J.D. as well.

Too bad Mark couldn't get a win, but at least the team did!

:)

Madvora
05-22-2008, 10:36 PM
8 game streaks are so 2005, I want to be at the park with a broom for 11 on Sunday night.
The Sox are big on 8 game streaks. I'm pretty sure that was the number that made Wimpy shave his head back in 1990 or 1991 or whenever that was.

EDIT - it was 1989

JB98
05-22-2008, 10:37 PM
Josh Hamilton might beg to differ. LOVE Quentin. But Hamilton has certainly been the MVP to this point.

Disagree. The Rangers are below .500 with Hamilton. They could play below .500 without him too.

There is NO WAY this Sox team is six games over and 3.5 up in the Central without Quentin. He's the MVP so far.

Brian26
05-22-2008, 10:38 PM
And a nice job of role playing by BA...


Absolutely. Taking second base on that deep fly to center turned out to be huge.

cheezheadsoxfan
05-22-2008, 10:39 PM
Great, just great. After last year, Linebrink is amazing.:bandance:

sullythered
05-22-2008, 10:39 PM
Josh Hamilton might beg to differ. LOVE Quentin. But Hamilton has certainly been the MVP to this point.
If the season ended right now, I think they'd give it to the guy on the playoff team.

Brian26
05-22-2008, 10:39 PM
The Sox are big on 8 game streaks. I'm pretty sure that was the number that made Wimpy shave his head back in 1990 or 1991 or whenever that was.

1989.

rookie
05-22-2008, 10:40 PM
Disagree. The Rangers are below .500 with Hamilton. They could play below .500 without him too.

There is NO WAY this Sox team is six games over and 3.5 up in the Central without Quentin. He's the MVP so far.

Amen to that. Let's have some of that wanting-to-pitch-as-good-as-the-last-starter fire that we had a few years ago. No one wants to be the first to give it up, the the offense making sure they're doing their job.

Soxman219
05-22-2008, 10:40 PM
Disagree. The Rangers are below .500 with Hamilton. They could play below .500 without him too.

There is NO WAY this Sox team is six games over and 3.5 up in the Central without Quentin. He's the MVP so far.

True that! :bandance:

TCQ for MVP!

October26
05-22-2008, 10:41 PM
SWEET SWEEP!

It was so great to see Carlton Fisk come out of the center field gate on his motorcycle prior to the game. Loved it! And then the Sox went out and got it done. Nice crowd on hand on this cold night. Great pitching and defense. Eight straight feels great! :bandance:

RockJock07
05-22-2008, 10:41 PM
Disagree. The Rangers are below .500 with Hamilton. They could play below .500 without him too.

There is NO WAY this Sox team is six games over and 3.5 up in the Central without Quentin. He's the MVP so far.

Agreed. Hamilton is gonna be a great but TCQ is a stud and has carried this team when no one else has been hitting. In my eyes, that's the definition of a MVP.

GlassSox
05-22-2008, 10:41 PM
The sweep is great and an 8 game winning streak is outstanding. Very solid ball game.

John Barrett
05-22-2008, 10:45 PM
Toby is playing out of his brain...351??? ***:bandance:

Hitmen77
05-22-2008, 10:45 PM
With the exception of OC's terrible at-bat, great execution in the 8th. BA tagging on AJ's deep fly and then two clutch hits. That was good baseball!

:gulp:

cheezheadsoxfan
05-22-2008, 10:47 PM
Toby is playing out of his brain...351??? ***:bandance:

Toby was still hurt last year. Hopefully this is the Toby we acquired.

HebrewHammer
05-22-2008, 10:47 PM
I love the message this sends to the Toons.

:ozzie
"We haven't gone anywhere and we're going to be in this for a while."

stacksedwards
05-22-2008, 10:48 PM
the most encouraging thing about tonight's win is two out hitting and scoring without the hr.

Jerome
05-22-2008, 10:48 PM
:)

loved that strikeout of Hafner - what a pitch by Bobby

Over By There
05-22-2008, 10:50 PM
TCQ continues to amaze. These long winning streaks are a lot of fun... I had almost forgotten. :cool:

ElevenUp
05-22-2008, 10:56 PM
:D: And 8 just happens to be my lucky number!


Mine's eleven.:wink:

gobears1987
05-22-2008, 10:57 PM
As the Twins keep losing and the Sox win, where is Timberwolf?

Railsplitter
05-22-2008, 11:03 PM
This streak is as long as the two longest streaks from last year COMBINED,

:bandance::bandance::bandance::bandance:
:bandance::bandance::bandance::bandance:

Cuck the Fubs
05-22-2008, 11:05 PM
Ozzie's line up shake up is undefeated:D:

It's only May, but we're looking pretty damn solid right now:cool:

cws05champ
05-22-2008, 11:14 PM
Awsome.....Ozzie seems to be making all the rights moves, and guys are coming through. Lets hit the Angels with everything we got.

Sockinchisox
05-22-2008, 11:15 PM
Really tough one tomorrow night against Saunders.

I'll be there though :D:

sox1970
05-22-2008, 11:16 PM
Hey, guess who has the biggest division lead in baseball?

gogosox16
05-22-2008, 11:21 PM
Awsome.....Ozzie seems to be making all the rights moves, and guys are coming through. Lets hit the Angels with everything we got.
When you said hit them with everything they got it got me thinking of this song.



http://youtube.com/watch?v=SLLSCLHKWPE

How do you get the video shown with out going through another link?

fusillirob1983
05-22-2008, 11:24 PM
Hey, guess who has the biggest division lead in baseball?

That's because, as my roommate puts it, the Sox play in the worst division in baseball.

Record-wise, he may be right or next worst after the NL west, but I don't think there's any AL teams except the Mariners and occasionally the Tigers that haven't remained competitive all season.

doublem23
05-22-2008, 11:25 PM
If the season ended right now, I think they'd give it to the guy on the playoff team.

Well, the season doesn't end today, but the only reason the Rangers are even treading water right now is Hamilton is pretty much single-handedly keeping them alive.

If the season ended today, he'd be 3 BA points shy of a Triple Crown. That equals MVP.

Lip Man 1
05-22-2008, 11:29 PM
I can't speak for anybody else but this winning every single night is mighty enjoyable!

Tough one tomorrow against Saunders, we'll see how they react.

Lip

Foulke You
05-22-2008, 11:33 PM
I'm now officially getting excited about this team. The pitching is great and we're getting just enough hitting to win. There was a Sox team a couple seasons ago that did both of those things very well too.:D:

Linebrink is a breath of fresh air after watching dozens of leads evaporate in the 8th inning in '07. My only worry is that Ozzie might be overusing him? I wasn't expecting him out there again today. We need another middle reliever besides Dotel and Linebrink that Oz can go to with confidence. In any case, the ghosts of Aardsma, MacDougal, and Bukvich are being chased out of the ballpark with every K that Line racks up.

Carlos Quentin is a machine. I was expecting a talented ballplayer but this guy is flat out ridiculous! He is carrying the club on his back right now. I remember being worried that we were moving him into the 3 hole too soon. If anything, he has responded even better. You have to give Ozzie some credit. There aren't a lot of managers who would have the stones to put a rookie in Carlos Quentin into the 3 hole on a team that wants to contend. The safe move would have been to put Dye there or just leave Thome there. Ozzie shuffled the deck and it has come up aces. The ghosts of Andy Gonzalez and Luis Terrero are also being chased out of our ballpark. :cool:

chisoxfanatic
05-22-2008, 11:34 PM
Btw, Scott Linebrink is ****ing awesome.


He sure is. And now my Sox fan opponent this week in fantasy baseball is kicking my ass with his Sox-loaded roster. I don't mind, because that means the Sox are winning! :D:

It hasn't been mentioned in here yet; but, that was our first home sweep since 2006! How about a couple more sweeps in a row!

doublem23
05-22-2008, 11:35 PM
All the little chicks with the crimson lips go
Cleveland sucks, Cleveland sucks
She's livin' in sin with a safety pin
She's goin Cleveland sucks, Cleveland sucks, Cleveland sucks (Cleveland sucks!)


WHITE SOX 26-20 .565 -
Minnesota 23-24 .489 3
Cleveland 22-25 .468 4
Kansas City 21-26 .447 5
Detroit 20-27 .426 6

whitesox901
05-22-2008, 11:36 PM
I think some one in the Toledo Metro area is wearing his SOX Jersey to school tommarow :rolleyes:

champagne030
05-22-2008, 11:42 PM
Really tough one tomorrow night against Saunders.

I'll be there though :D:

Hopefully, we took notes against Laffey because Saunders is his clone.......

JB98
05-22-2008, 11:44 PM
With the exception of OC's terrible at-bat, great execution in the 8th. BA tagging on AJ's deep fly and then two clutch hits. That was good baseball!

:gulp:

The tag-up by BA was a little play that made a big difference.

doublem23
05-22-2008, 11:47 PM
When you said hit them with everything they got it got me thinking of this song.



http://youtube.com/watch?v=SLLSCLHKWPE

How do you get the video shown with out going through another link?

Copy all that gobbledeegoop after the equal sign and paste it in the text box between 2 [youtube] codes (except put a backslash in the 2nd one to close out the format).

Though, I will respectfully ask that you not post any Pat Benatar music videos on the boards. :cool:

jabrch
05-22-2008, 11:47 PM
Mark didnt look amazing tonite...

Are you kidding? 2 hits in 7 IP? Didn't look amazing?

Craig Grebeck
05-22-2008, 11:49 PM
Are you kidding? 2 hits in 7 IP? Didn't look amazing?
He walked four guys and struck out two. Hardly amazing. Recipient of luck and solid defense? Yes.

jabrch
05-22-2008, 11:50 PM
Toby is playing out of his brain...351??? ***:bandance:

Toby is a good hitter against LHP. That's the reason we signed him two years ago. Were it not for the silly ass injury last year, I can't see people would have soured on him the way they did.

doublem23
05-22-2008, 11:51 PM
He walked four guys and struck out two. Hardly amazing. Recipient of luck and solid defense? Yes.

Um, Mark has always pitched to contact. Tonight was classic Buehrle. He pitched beautifully.

Craig Grebeck
05-22-2008, 11:54 PM
Um, Mark has always pitched to contact. Tonight was classic Buehrle. He pitched beautifully.
2/4 K:BB ratio just doesn't do it for me. When you put that many guys on base you are lucky to escape with just one run.

edit: I'm aware he has always pitched to contact -- issuing 4 BBs isn't part of his repertoire though.

JB98
05-22-2008, 11:57 PM
2/4 K:BB ratio just doesn't do it for me. When you put that many guys on base you are lucky to escape with just one run.

edit: I'm aware he has always pitched to contact -- issuing 4 BBs isn't part of his repertoire though.

I thought Buehrle just had a rough third inning. He walked two weak hitters in Gutierrez and Cabrera. He gave up a double to Sizemore, and he was fortunate to escape with only one run allowed after Francisco and Hafner both hit liners right at Sox defenders.

Other than that third inning, I think Mark was good.

jabrch
05-22-2008, 11:58 PM
Um, Mark has always pitched to contact. Tonight was classic Buehrle. He pitched beautifully.

No kidding...the boobery of Sox fans these days knows no boundries.

TomBradley72
05-23-2008, 12:00 AM
I'm liking Alexei at 2B a little more each day...he seems to bring a little bit of a spark.

Cabrera is becoming a disappointment. Horrible job trying to get the bunt down. Really bad drop of the attempted stolen base throw.

Craig Grebeck
05-23-2008, 12:00 AM
No kidding...the boobery of Sox fans these days knows no boundries.
Listen, I know you make a point of being the organizational lapdog around here, but I really didn't think Mark looked very impressive. I apologize.

oeo
05-23-2008, 12:02 AM
He walked four guys and struck out two. Hardly amazing. Recipient of luck and solid defense? Yes.

He was lucky in the third inning...other than that, he pitched himself out of the jams he got into.

I thought he pitched well tonight. I could do without the walks, but the umpire wasn't helping matters by changing the strike zone for each and every batter. One batter, he's getting the corners, up, and down called...the very next he has to throw it through a teacup. Be ****ty one way or the other and stick with it.

areilly
05-23-2008, 12:06 AM
I can't speak for anybody else but this winning every single night is mighty enjoyable!

Tough one tomorrow against Saunders, we'll see how they react.

Agreed on both points, Lip. I'm not ready to declare the Sox the best in the land but this was a huge sweep; dominate early and (hopefully) the rest will flow. If the Good Guys can take the series this weekend I'll start getting my hopes up, especially considering the pitching matchups:

Fri: Saunders/Floyd
Sat: Weaver/Danks
Sun: Lackey/Contreras

doublem23
05-23-2008, 12:07 AM
2/4 K:BB ratio just doesn't do it for me. When you put that many guys on base you are lucky to escape with just one run.

edit: I'm aware he has always pitched to contact -- issuing 4 BBs isn't part of his repertoire though.

:dunno:

He only allowed 2 hits, though, which is a grand total of 6 base runners in 7 innings. If you're WHIP is under 1, I don't care how they're getting on, I'll live with it.

I would be more concerned if he allowed 8 hits with 4 walks. That's asking for trouble.

rowand33
05-23-2008, 12:11 AM
Disagree. The Rangers are below .500 with Hamilton. They could play below .500 without him too.

There is NO WAY this Sox team is six games over and 3.5 up in the Central without Quentin. He's the MVP so far.

A-Rod won an MVP with the Rangers when they were a dog **** team.

If Hamilton continues on his RBI pace, he's MVP.

The guy is out of this world right now. On pace for 178 RBI. playoffs or not, that's the MVP.

Though I'd much rather it end up that you guys were right :D:

Noneck
05-23-2008, 12:14 AM
7 innings facing 25 batters. Thats not good? I'll take it every outing and October will be a sweet month.

TomBradley72
05-23-2008, 12:15 AM
So are we now DONE with the Carlton Fisk Nights? We had one to retire his number. We had one to unveil his statue. And now we've had one to welcome him back as an ambassador. I think we even had one just to honor his retirement when the team gave him the motorcycle. That's 3-4 "Nights".

I love Pudge...but we're done now, right?:cool:

JGarlandrules20
05-23-2008, 12:16 AM
I just got back from the game. My first one this season.. and all I can say is frozen limbs are so worth a white sox winner. :smile:

Oh, and I'm glad the attempt of the wave failed miserably.

Noneck
05-23-2008, 12:17 AM
So are we now DONE with the Carlton Fisk Nights? We had one to retire his number. We had one to unveil his statue. And now we've had one to welcome him back as an ambassador. I think we even had one just to honor his retirement when the team gave him the motorcycle. That's 3-4 "Nights".

I love Pudge...but we're done now, right?:cool:


Wonder how many nights his beloved Blosox had for him?

aryzner
05-23-2008, 12:24 AM
Just got back from the game. Awesome win. I said out loud "TCQ is the guy I want up in this situation," then BAM he gets the hit.

Two.. sort of complaints, though...

I sat down the 3B line towards the foul pole, and...

1.) Why do SO MANY PEOPLE ALWAYS have to be walking/standing in front of me during almost EVERY pitch of the ballgame?

2.) What in the hell was that Ronnie Woo-Woo Cubs guy doing there?

voodoochile
05-23-2008, 12:27 AM
Listen, I know you make a point of being the organizational lapdog around here, but I really didn't think Mark looked very impressive. I apologize.

Lapdog?

I guess that makes me the Bull Mastif...

Tragg
05-23-2008, 12:28 AM
TCQ has been the man all year; nothing new about it.

One benefit during this fantastic streak is that we missed the aces of the Indians, Giants, and before the streak, the Mariners. Maybe the Angels, too, but I don't know who their ace is.

This is May - everyone was wearing coats in the dugout? Yikes!

GoSox2K3
05-23-2008, 12:35 AM
He walked four guys and struck out two. Hardly amazing. Recipient of luck and solid defense? Yes.

2/4 K:BB ratio just doesn't do it for me. When you put that many guys on base you are lucky to escape with just one run.

edit: I'm aware he has always pitched to contact -- issuing 4 BBs isn't part of his repertoire though.

Listen, I know you make a point of being the organizational lapdog around here, but I really didn't think Mark looked very impressive. I apologize.

Geez, do you even enjoy watching a baseball game?

I'm sorry, but the Sox have just won 8 in a row and 12 of 16. Buehrle did his part tonight of hold the Indians to 2 hits. Can we at least enjoy this without all the bitching and moaning about how this really wasn't very impressive and doesn't "do it for me".

:raincloud:

hawkjt
05-23-2008, 12:36 AM
MB went off speed a lot tonite and the tribe were off balance.
beautiful clutch hitting by Toby,Carlos and JD tonite. Toby is getting that Garko type swing working...wish more guys would in/out swing like him.
Carlos is like a linebacker playing baseball out there,it's cool to watch him charging around the bases.
Bobby Jenks is destined to be the best Sox closer ever,right? He is like a born closer..perfect temperment. Thanks Kenny for getting Bobby and Carlos on the cheap. And Alexi might edge into that territory the way he is going.
Hamilton got to 50 RBI fastest ever in the AL. Leads in all three Triple Crown categories right now...he has the edge in the MVP.
Saw Mark B. in the postgame and he had lil Mark B. in his arms...lil guy is like a MB clone, even grabbing at the mic with his left hand...nice easy motion already.

GoSox2K3
05-23-2008, 12:36 AM
TCQ has been the man all year; nothing new about it.

One benefit during this fantastic streak is that we missed the aces of the Indians, Giants, and before the streak, the Mariners. Maybe the Angels, too, but I don't know who their ace is.

This is May - everyone was wearing coats in the dugout? Yikes!

It was VERY chilly out here in Chicago this evening.

thomas35forever
05-23-2008, 12:44 AM
I still can't believe that NASTY curve Bobby threw to strike out Hafner. ZING!

thedudeabides
05-23-2008, 12:45 AM
I'm trying to temper my excitement a bit, because it is still May, but this team really feels like a winner to me. The clutch hitting lately has been outstanding. It's so refreshing to have a bullpen again.

thedudeabides
05-23-2008, 12:55 AM
I still can't believe that NASTY curve Bobby threw to strike out Hafner. ZING!

That was unhittable. And, how bad does Hafner look?

slavko
05-23-2008, 12:58 AM
I still can't believe that NASTY curve Bobby threw to strike out Hafner. ZING!

He should forget the slider and stick to curve/fastball. The slider seems to get hit. A one-inning pitcher doesn't need that many pitches anyway.

Gavin
05-23-2008, 01:11 AM
Second game I have been to this year at USCF. The other was Gavin's near no-hitter. Both games were cold (the April game was much more miserable), though I almost thought today's would be nicer since--hey--it's May 22nd. Without regard, both were good games.
First time I've been to the bullpen bar or whatever it's called. It seems very, very detached from the park; I'm amazed that you can't even really hear a crowd reaction to ANYTHING. I think the most annoying thing of the bullpen bar was the drunk fans who felt entitled to talk **** to scrub Indian relief pitchers through an inch of glass.
The family night package (pop/dog/chips) was cheaper than just getting the seat (something like $14 vs $17) and really is a pretty damn good deal since I almost always end up getting a hotdog anyway. The line was kind of a pain, but my girlfriend is a vegetarian so I definitely came out of it satisfied. It's kind of amazing that the concession stands don't understand the concept of division of labor though... why wouldn't you have one person prepping hot dogs, one person on drinks, one person handling the orders, etc?
Lots of people walking around in the upper deck, drunk and without any intention of watching the game in a seat. Must be a weeknight/school's out thing.
The CTA is what it is.. can't say I love having to go through half of the loop but at least the red line train stopped at my Diversey stop.
So we boo the hell out of Cabrera when he fails to bunt the runner over but we applaud AJ for "advancing" BA to 2nd? Granted, it was a game-winning tag-up but a single wouldn't hurt either (Ah, who cares. CQ is the man!). We may never catch on to Cabrera after his start, though.Anyway, I need to catch more games like these!

thomas35forever
05-23-2008, 01:15 AM
Another thing worth noting is that I was at the game where the Sox last swept Cleveland at home. Interesting, huh?:redface:

elrod
05-23-2008, 01:26 AM
The weather this spring has been so nice down here in Tennessee. I figured it must be freezing up in Chicago if we're not getting any heat yet. :cool:

Mohoney
05-23-2008, 02:09 AM
2/4 K:BB ratio just doesn't do it for me. When you put that many guys on base you are lucky to escape with just one run.

2 hits and 4 BB is not a lot of baserunners at all for 7 IP.

Starting pitchers that put up WHIPs under 1 for an entire season are usually in Cy Young contention.

ssox08
05-23-2008, 02:20 AM
because ive been seeing fireworks all week!!!

doublem23
05-23-2008, 02:21 AM
2 hits and 4 BB is not a lot of baserunners at all for 7 IP.

Starting pitchers that put up WHIPs under 1 for an entire season are usually in Cy Young contention.

Thank you. :tiphat:

I'd much rather Mark walk a couple guys because he's just missing the corners than have him leave his 88-MPH fastball right over the heart of the plate to be crushed. The important stat to watch with Buehrle is WHIP, not K/BB.

The Immigrant
05-23-2008, 02:32 AM
Listen, I know you make a point of being the organizational lapdog around here, but I really didn't think Mark looked very impressive. I apologize.

You've become a parody of yourself.

Great win for the Sox.

Boondock Saint
05-23-2008, 02:52 AM
because ive been seeing fireworks all week!!!

:welcome:

It's a kickass tear we've been on lately. We've gotta keep this ball rolling.

soxfan21
05-23-2008, 06:00 AM
I was happy to see another win tonite and was also glad to see Fisk back at the ballpark. It was pretty cool how he came in on a cycle with Kittle and Bo. I am also glad that we are starting to come through in the clutch now and are winning these close games now. My only question is, what was ronnie woo woo doing at the game last night. Before the game started I heard some booing coming from about section 103/104, and noticed woo woo there. Maybe it is the trib getting pissed at this streak that we are on and are trying to ruin our mojo or something. Anyway who cares, another win and going for 9 in a row tonite :bandance:.

jabrch
05-23-2008, 07:52 AM
Thank you. :tiphat:

I'd much rather Mark walk a couple guys because he's just missing the corners than have him leave his 88-MPH fastball right over the heart of the plate to be crushed. The important stat to watch with Buehrle is WHIP, not K/BB.


I actually believe that ERA is much more important for Mark (and for most pitchers). I don't really give a damn about secondary ratios for a SP. I agree his WHIP is more important than his K/IP or K/BB. He's never going to be a 200K guy, and will likely not ofter have a WHIP under 1.2. But he can be downright nasty if he only allows 2 hits in 7 IP regardless of if he walks 4.

To say that this wasn't an impressive performance is to admit to either not watching the games or to being marginally unable to comprehend what happens on the field. Hell, it is almost an admission of not reading the box score.

Craig Grebeck
05-23-2008, 08:08 AM
I actually believe that ERA is much more important for Mark (and for most pitchers). I don't really give a damn about secondary ratios for a SP. I agree his WHIP is more important than his K/IP or K/BB. He's never going to be a 200K guy, and will likely not ofter have a WHIP under 1.2. But he can be downright nasty if he only allows 2 hits in 7 IP regardless of if he walks 4.

To say that this wasn't an impressive performance is to admit to either not watching the games or to being marginally unable to comprehend what happens on the field. Hell, it is almost an admission of not reading the box score.

I watched the game. I was aware all night he had only given up 2 hits. I apologize. I know his WHIP was under 1.00 for the night -- my main point was Buehrle will not do well if he continues to issue so many free passes, mainly because he's not the type of guy who will give up that few hits very often.

spawn
05-23-2008, 08:27 AM
Geez, do you even enjoy watching a baseball game?

I'm sorry, but the Sox have just won 8 in a row and 12 of 16. Buehrle did his part tonight of hold the Indians to 2 hits. Can we at least enjoy this without all the bitching and moaning about how this really wasn't very impressive and doesn't "do it for me".

:raincloud:
I'm starting to believe he's Homefish's long lost brother.

itsnotrequired
05-23-2008, 09:02 AM
I still can't believe that NASTY curve Bobby threw to strike out Hafner. ZING!

I was sitting a bit behind the Sox dugout and you could see his knees buckle.

MsSoxVixen22
05-23-2008, 09:35 AM
I was at the game last night. By the time I left, I couldn't feel my fingers or my nose, but it was worth it to see the Sox sweep the Toons! Mark looked great! Yeah he walked a few guys but he got the double play ball so it all works out. :D: TCQ...what can I say? The guy is phenominal. I love it when he's up to bat, in a clutch situation because I know he'll come through. Dye had himself a night too. And Toby Hall!! Holy ****! Good to see him hitting again! Only nitpick? Thome can't hit lefties to save his life! Someone metioned they got to see Buehrle holding his son on the postgame show. I wish I could've seen that! :redface:

Jurr
05-23-2008, 09:39 AM
The weather this spring has been so nice down here in Tennessee. I figured it must be freezing up in Chicago if we're not getting any heat yet. :cool:
Don't remind me. I was down there this past weekend to see my brother graduate high school. 77 and sunny all weekend. Beautiful.

Thank God it's sunny today in Pittsburgh. It usually rains on my day off.

Jurr
05-23-2008, 09:41 AM
I actually believe that ERA is much more important for Mark (and for most pitchers). I don't really give a damn about secondary ratios for a SP. I agree his WHIP is more important than his K/IP or K/BB. He's never going to be a 200K guy, and will likely not ofter have a WHIP under 1.2. But he can be downright nasty if he only allows 2 hits in 7 IP regardless of if he walks 4.

To say that this wasn't an impressive performance is to admit to either not watching the games or to being marginally unable to comprehend what happens on the field. Hell, it is almost an admission of not reading the box score.
I agree. Mark's all about pitching to contact, holding baserunners, and getting hitters to roll into a dp. He doesn't quite hold up to most stat analysis. His K/BB will never be stellar, but that's just not his style.

jabrch
05-23-2008, 09:48 AM
I agree. Mark's all about pitching to contact, holding baserunners, and getting hitters to roll into a dp. He doesn't quite hold up to most stat analysis. His K/BB will never be stellar, but that's just not his style.


It reminds me of people who complain that a leadoff hitter's SLG% is too low...who gives a rats ass? Sure it is nice to have 10 HRs instead of 3. Sure it is nice for a SP to have 5 baserunners in 7 innings instead of 6. But in either case, it is gross ignorance to not recognize that Mark was nearly unhittable and that he dominated Cleveland. To not consider that an impressive outing is absolute blatant ignorance of the reality that was yesterday. Mark can go out there, give up 2 hits and walk 4 every night - I think he will win a lot of games. Bitching about his 4 walks is just flat out silly.

kitekrazy
05-23-2008, 10:00 AM
And a nice job of role playing by BA...

:winner

:supernana:

:)

Good to see someone noticed this. His aggressive base running made a difference.

kobo
05-23-2008, 10:13 AM
Great win last night. Buehrle pitched a great game, the hits came through when needed, just a great team win. Nice to see some smart baserunning as well by Anderson. And TCQ? What else can be said that hasn't already? He's a catalyst for this team and seems to come up with the big hit when needed and hustles and is doing everything possible to help this team. Of course there are some areas where I would like to see the team improve, but right now this team is playing very well and I couldn't be happier.

kitekrazy
05-23-2008, 10:23 AM
2/4 K:BB ratio just doesn't do it for me. When you put that many guys on base you are lucky to escape with just one run.

edit: I'm aware he has always pitched to contact -- issuing 4 BBs isn't part of his repertoire though.

Most baseball managers prefer a starter to go a lot of innings while giving up few runs as possible.

kitekrazy
05-23-2008, 10:27 AM
Geez, do you even enjoy watching a baseball game?

I'm sorry, but the Sox have just won 8 in a row and 12 of 16. Buehrle did his part tonight of hold the Indians to 2 hits. Can we at least enjoy this without all the bitching and moaning about how this really wasn't very impressive and doesn't "do it for me".

:raincloud:

POTW!

Bob G
05-23-2008, 10:28 AM
OG made all the right moves in this game - like they say when the team is winning the manager looks like a genius and when they're not everyone wants him fired.

Lets keep it going against the Angels - should be a great weekend. The weather forecast is good and we'll be in the national spot light Sat. and Sun.

btrain929
05-23-2008, 10:35 AM
TCQ has been the man all year; nothing new about it.

One benefit during this fantastic streak is that we missed the aces of the Indians, Giants, and before the streak, the Mariners. Maybe the Angels, too, but I don't know who their ace is.

This is May - everyone was wearing coats in the dugout? Yikes!

Are you serious? CC isn't CLE's ace anymore?

wilburaga
05-23-2008, 10:39 AM
God save our gracious Quentin
Long live our noble Quentin,
God save The Quentin:
Send him victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us:
God save The Quentin

W

ArkanSox
05-23-2008, 11:13 AM
I am feeling a bit high

:gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp:

...but I'm still thirsty for more winners.

VeeckAsInWreck
05-23-2008, 11:18 AM
I heard on the radio this morning that it was Harold that told BA to tag up to second. I'm paraphrasing here but BA said something like "I heard Harold scream TAG and I went, when Harold screams you have to go"

:harold
"Holla if you hear me"

Still though, good game all around and it's great to see the team on a roll like this! Let's keep it going!

kevingrt
05-23-2008, 11:19 AM
By the way I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but

This team and streak is a helluva lotta fun to watch.

palehozenychicty
05-23-2008, 11:30 AM
We look good. That's all you need to say right now.

btrain929
05-23-2008, 11:39 AM
I heard on the radio this morning that it was Harold that told BA to tag up to second. I'm paraphrasing here but BA said something like "I heard Harold scream TAG and I went, when Harold screams you have to go"

:harold
"Holla if you hear me"

Still though, good game all around and it's great to see the team on a roll like this! Let's keep it going!

That might be the 1st thing he's said down at 1b all year....

voodoochile
05-23-2008, 11:55 AM
I heard on the radio this morning that it was Harold that told BA to tag up to second. I'm paraphrasing here but BA said something like "I heard Harold scream TAG and I went, when Harold screams you have to go"

:harold
"Holla if you hear me"

Still though, good game all around and it's great to see the team on a roll like this! Let's keep it going!

Yeah, if Harold is being vocal AND audible, you kind of have to pay attention...

hawkjt
05-23-2008, 01:55 PM
I was at the game last night. By the time I left, I couldn't feel my fingers or my nose, but it was worth it to see the Sox sweep the Toons! Mark looked great! Yeah he walked a few guys but he got the double play ball so it all works out. :D: TCQ...what can I say? The guy is phenominal. I love it when he's up to bat, in a clutch situation because I know he'll come through. Dye had himself a night too. And Toby Hall!! Holy ****! Good to see him hitting again! Only nitpick? Thome can't hit lefties to save his life! Someone metioned they got to see Buehrle holding his son on the postgame show. I wish I could've seen that! :redface:

I saw the post-game interview with MB as he was holding lil Burls in his arms.
Lil Burls looks like a mini-Mark already..blondie, tough looking...little stubble..easy lefty motion as he grabbed at the mic...I was waiting for him to smack his old man with a shaving cream pie...

spiffie
05-23-2008, 02:12 PM
I agree. Mark's all about pitching to contact, holding baserunners, and getting hitters to roll into a dp. He doesn't quite hold up to most stat analysis. His K/BB will never be stellar, but that's just not his style.
Stat wise the thing that is amazing about Mark is how generally consistent his BABIP is. Most pitchers, even the very best pitchers, tend to have that number fluctuate pretty wildly from year to year. But Buehrle, like only the very best control pitchers, tends to hover in the same area every season. That's the mark of a man who knows how to pitch to contact very well, and something only a few pitchers in baseball can do. That's why his margin for error can be so low, and if he's off just a little, like we've seen, he can be crushed.

Pinar_del_Rio_WS
05-23-2008, 03:47 PM
Im very happy with the streak, but worried about de offensive If U take the sum of the 8 games in streak Its look as a no so bad offensive:

Ave: .287 R/G: 5.25 H/G: 9.75 LOB/G: 8.375

but if U discard the numbers in the 13-8 won in 05/18 ther things are for worried a little more.

Ave: .282 R/G: 4.1 H/G: 9 LOB/G: 8.86

Only 4.1 runs scored per game!! there is no chance for the staff to take a breath on his job. I didnt make the calculations over the last lost games, but Im pretty sure that there is not significative difference in the offensive between the loses and the wons.

So we can thing that they are winning for almost pure chance and because the starters and the bullpen are doing a pretty good job!!

Go, Sox, Go, dont stop believing

VeeckAsInWreck
05-23-2008, 03:57 PM
Im very happy with the streak, but worried about de offensive If U take the sum of the 8 games in streak Its look as a no so bad offensive:

Ave: .287 R/G: 5.25 H/G: 9.75 LOB/G: 8.375

but if U discard the numbers in the 13-8 won in 05/18 ther things are for worried a little more.

Ave: .282 R/G: 4.1 H/G: 9 LOB/G: 8.86

Only 4.1 runs scored per game!! there is no chance for the staff to take a breath on his job. I didnt make the calculations over the last lost games, but Im pretty sure that there is not significative difference in the offensive between the loses and the wons.

So we can thing that they are winning for almost pure chance and because the starters and the bullpen are doing a pretty good job!!

Go, Sox, Go, dont stop believing

It's no secret around here that the offense is not where we would like it to be but the pitching has been phenomenal. Despite Buehrle's struggles everyone else has been very solid. Javy Vazquez has been the ace of the staff, Contreras is starting to regain his 2005-06 form and both Danks and Floyd have been pitching terrific.

There is still plenty of baseball and it's looking good for our Sox.

turners56
05-23-2008, 04:09 PM
The 8th inning brought back the memories of 05, prompting me to watch the 05 WS DVD on my Zune again. I don't think the 8 straight is the most important thing coming out of this win, but rather the space we've put between us and Cleveland. The Indians will be a factor this season, their pitching is good and their offense is bound to breakout, so this sweep is huge. Not to mention they threw their best pitcher at us, yet we still won. We've just taken a huge stride at possibly owning the Indians for the rest of the year. This sweep kind of reminds me of the one in 05 right after the all-star break, where we swept Cleveland at the Jake.