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Viva Medias B's
05-21-2008, 08:41 AM
I was at the game last night, and it was a busy game for Sox Security in my area. First of all, there were two fans in my section that kept standing up and chanting "CLEVELAND SUCKS!" all night long. Eventually, by the bottom of the 8th inning, Sox Security came and escorted them out. A third fan was given a warning by Sox Security, but after the inning ended, he was forcibly removed by Sox Security and tried to put up a fight as he was being taken away. Before that, in the section to my left, Sox Security came en masse to break up a fight between two women.

Sox Security was on their game last night, and they weren't taking anything from anybody. And I commend Sox Security for this because, like you, I am tired of fans like this embarrassing our franchise. Just because someone has a ticket to a game, these drillrods think they have a God-given right to act like a complete *******. Hopefully, they all got to spend a nice evening at the Bridgeport Crossbar Hotel and 35th & Lowe.

Law11
05-21-2008, 08:43 AM
As I think the 7th or 8th inning ended on CSN you could see as the players were walking off the field all the fans on the 3rd base side rising up and a big roar was going up..

Viva Medias B's
05-21-2008, 08:44 AM
As I think the 8th inning ended on CSN you could see as the players were walking off the field all the fans on the 3rd base side rising up and a big roar was going up..

That was the fight involving the women.

BringBackBlkJack
05-21-2008, 08:57 AM
Just because someone has a ticket to a game, these drillrods think they have a God-given right to act like a complete *******.


I propose that "drillrod" become the official WSI euphemism for buffoonery. :D:

PorkChopExpress
05-21-2008, 09:06 AM
Also, what was the deal with Dotel? I heard Mike North this morning suggest that someone shined a laser in his face while he was about to pitch. If that's true, real classy.

Viva Medias B's
05-21-2008, 09:10 AM
Also, what was the deal with Dotel? I heard Mike North this morning suggest that someone shined a laser in his face while he was about to pitch. If that's true, real classy.

I thought something odd like that happened. Dotel called timeout and talked to the home plate umpire. He pointed to somewhere in the stands behind the Indians dugout. Then Ozzie came out and talked to the umpire.

Jerko
05-21-2008, 09:10 AM
Also, what was the deal with Dotel? I heard Mike North this morning suggest that someone shined a laser in his face while he was about to pitch. If that's true, real classy.

Farmer mentioned it on the radio but by the time I got the TV on it was already over. Supposedly some idiot with one of those laser-pointers was shining it in Dotel's eye.

skottyj242
05-21-2008, 09:14 AM
They were in full force all evening and did a great job. I saw the fight between the women, and an inning after that they kicked someone out too. They were also in the parking lots before the game checking id's for underage drinking. They nailed the kids that were next to us and when they pulled away they probably had three cases of beer in the back.

southsidesoxfan1
05-21-2008, 09:21 AM
Must of been because of the full moon last night.

digdagdug23
05-21-2008, 09:35 AM
Where were they playing when someone was shining a laser when we were on the road?

You have alcohol, thousands of people en masse, and you are going to have fights and loudmouths. It happens at every ballpark across the country, and will continue to happen.

It doesn't reflect well on the fanbase when it occurs, but tell me one ballpark where it hasn't happened?

Besides, the asshats in Cleveland are now infamous for loudly and raucously booing Thome when he comes to the plate, so whatever.

kittle42
05-21-2008, 10:45 AM
I've only been to the park 3 times so far this year and have seen some of the worst behavior I have seen in years. This kind of crap does nothing for the already poor reputation of Sox fans.

spiffie
05-21-2008, 10:53 AM
Damn half-price Mondays. You let people in cheap and this is what happens.

The Immigrant
05-21-2008, 10:55 AM
Farmer mentioned it on the radio but by the time I got the TV on it was already over. Supposedly some idiot with one of those laser-pointers was shining it in Dotel's eye.

It wasn't a laser pointer but a mirror of some sort. I was sitting in the first row of section 125, right behind the Indians dugout, and the light came from the upper deck directly behind me. It was aimed right at Dotel's face. He had just thrown two straight balls and I was sure the distraction would mess him up, but he rebounded nicely.

Overall, I thought there were fewer jagoffs there last night than most nights. Tribe fans tend to be awful quiet when their team blows.

Hafner, by the way, looks like he's dropped about 25 lbs and Martinez and Sizemore about 15 lbs each. C.C., on the other hand, is still as fat as ever.

thedudeabides
05-21-2008, 10:55 AM
I was wondering what happened in that corner last night. I heard a roar and saw everyone standing up in the section. Then there was about 7 white shirts(security) running down.

The only thing that I thought was funny was watching the bullpens catching wind of it and seeing all of them running over to wach the fight.

I'll agree, for some reason the crowds have been rough so far this year. Last night I came from work and couldn't get a chang of clothes before the game. Not in a suit or anything, but dressed business casual. Still, I was called a Cub fan, fill in the blank, three times. Even with a Sox hat on. :scratch:

pmck003
05-21-2008, 11:00 AM
Damn half-price Mondays. You let people in cheap and this is what happens.

Let them eat cake!!

skottyj242
05-21-2008, 11:04 AM
Damn half-price Mondays. You let people in cheap and this is what happens.


Yesterday was Tuesday.

beasly213
05-21-2008, 11:31 AM
Yea I was sitting on 158 behind the sox Pen and saw the fight between the 2 women. It went on for a little bit before Security hussled down there. Funny thing was Wasserman spent the whole game sitting outside where the actual bullpen was and you could tell he was laughing at the morons.

That cub fan that got thrown out who was waving his hat on the way out was a professional jackass. Way to NOT live up to your sterotype of all cub fans being drunk morons buddy.

Also I took the pace bus on the way back to Oak Lawn and the bus in front of us pulled over and the driver pulled a couple kids off and was screaming at them. I guess a fight happened on the bus between two retarted drunk high school kids who weren't fooling anyone by drinking out of 7up and sprite bottles.

Yup. Probably a full moon last night.

soxfan21
05-21-2008, 11:31 AM
I'll agree that Sox Security has been on the ball this season and that there do seem to be more idiots in the park than usual this year. At both Sunday games that I have attended (also kids days) there were a group of what looked to be teenagers whom you could just smell the liquor coming off of when they came into the section that I was sitting at. Usually on Sunday's I try to keep my cursing to a minimum because of all the kids there, but these guys were going off for most of the entire game. In the 3rd or fourth inning of each game security came down and got these guys out of there after many parents started to tell the teenagers to watch the language, and yet they proceeded to be loudmouths. I know that this basically happens at every stadium, at every sporting event around the country, but it is the few idiots that give the entire Sox fanbase a bad name. It's too bad, but what really can you do about it.

spiffie
05-21-2008, 11:35 AM
Yesterday was Tuesday.
Well then I'm going to assume they snuck down from the upper deck. After all, only people who don't pay a lot for tickets cause problems. I've learned that the last few years.

moochpuppy
05-21-2008, 11:41 AM
Well then I'm going to assume they snuck down from the upper deck. After all, only people who don't pay a lot for tickets cause problems. I've learned that the last few years.

Because only people with money who can afford $30 a seat aren't jagoffs? :scratch:

Law11
05-21-2008, 11:44 AM
Not to hijack this thread and turn it into a obnoxious fan thread but does anyone here remember dropping f-bombs as a kid in public like some of these tools do now. Its like they think they have just invented the word and are exploring how to use it in every sentence.

Frontman
05-21-2008, 11:47 AM
*sigh*

Last night was Postal Employee Appreciation Night.

And no, I'm not joking.

*sigh*

itsnotrequired
05-21-2008, 11:48 AM
It wasn't a laser pointer but a mirror of some sort. I was sitting in the first row of section 125, right behind the Indians dugout, and the light came from the upper deck directly behind me. It was aimed right at Dotel's face. He had just thrown two straight balls and I was sure the distraction would mess him up, but he rebounded nicely.

You are correct. I was in 524 and you could tell it was from a mirror of sorts and not a laser. It happened on the first pitch and after the second pitch was when Dotel said something. I don't recall seeing it again.

Last night I came from work and couldn't get a chang of clothes before the game. Not in a suit or anything, but dressed business casual. Still, I was called a Cub fan, fill in the blank, three times. Even with a Sox hat on. :scratch:

I've gotten guff the couple games I wore a tie to. The worst was during the last weekday afternoon game when I was walking around with my two year old son. Some Sox "fan" decked out in all the gear made it a point to back up from his group of buddies and block my path. I got by him and all his buddies chuckled.

You stay classy, Sox fans!:rolleyes:

kittle42
05-21-2008, 12:21 PM
I've gotten guff the couple games I wore a tie to. The worst was during the last weekday afternoon game when I was walking around with my two year old son. Some Sox "fan" decked out in all the gear made it a point to back up from his group of buddies and block my path. I got by him and all his buddies chuckled.

You stay classy, Sox fans!:rolleyes:

"A tie? Look at dis guy. Youse must be a yuppie scumbag ******* Cubbie fan! Don't youse come to OUR house, you ****head!"

I must say, I really don't actually like a lot of the Sox fans I encounter at the park. But I love the team. Luckily, I didn't choose my sports allegiences based on where I grew up (NW side).

jenn2080
05-21-2008, 12:28 PM
I saw some ****ing jag off throw a beer at a kid who was wearing a Cubs shirt. He standing with his friends screaming Cubs suck. Go back to gay town. The kid turned around and walked the other way. As the kid walked away the dick **** took his full cup of beer and tossed it at him. Thankfully it did not hit the kid. Real ****ing outstanding fans. I agree with kittle42. This year has been acceptional with trash bag *******s. I have left my seats a few times because of idiots.

During the Detroit series I was with my family and this guy was screaming all kinds of stupid ****. I turned around and asked him if he would stop because there were kids around. He then started chanting suck a dick. Not only was my 10 yr old brother with me there were quite a few kids in the area. I yelled at him again and never heard a word out of him after that. Dick head.

jenn2080
05-21-2008, 12:29 PM
Because only people with money who can afford $30 a seat aren't jagoffs? :scratch:


A good percentage.

Jerko
05-21-2008, 12:34 PM
We were on the LD concourse and my buddy bought a round of beers at last call. I was in the men's room so he put a few beers on the ledge where we were standing and 2 doofuses just started drinking them. I came back and said "where's the beer" and one of the idiots puts it back and says "oh sorry dude". I told him "I don't want it now, I don't know where it's been" and I threw the whole thing out. My buddy felt bad because he was BSing with some guy he knew, but he didn't think he had to babysit our beers either. Note to drunks: If you see beers on a ledge, and a bunch of people standing by the ledge are drinking the same brand of beer, and you didn't order or pay for the beer, it's not your beer. This was during an afternoon weekday game so I can't blame the monday night crowd, the upper deckers, or the first game after a long road trippers. It's just........people.

WS in 05
05-21-2008, 12:38 PM
They were in full force all evening and did a great job. I saw the fight between the women, and an inning after that they kicked someone out too. They were also in the parking lots before the game checking id's for underage drinking. They nailed the kids that were next to us and when they pulled away they probably had three cases of beer in the back.


Three years ago this happened to me and some friends. Were so pissed 15 seconds after we gave them the beer that we didn't pour it all out(it had maybe four gone). They rode away with a nice fresh 20 pack. Yea I know underage drinking is illegal but we were all a couple months from 21 and were just hanging out causing no trouble. I think it was me looking so young that screwed it up for my friends and I.

minutia
05-21-2008, 12:41 PM
Last year I was at a Sunday afternoon Twins game in the upper deck and I was very embarrased by the behavior of "Sox" fans up there. There were a few familes that were Twins fans with little kids and they were marveling at how cool it was to see a game outside. They were just real nice, we got to talking before the game. Then these dude show up and are cursing and just being real jerks. They were scaring these kids. I got up and got guest services and they left swearing all the way. I kept apologizing to these families. I was so embarassed.
Then there was, I always assume Cubs fans (but am probably wrong, it is just I have seen these dudes in Cleveland gear too), that show up when they are out of town wearing the apperal of whoever the Sox are facing. They were real jags too.

minutia
05-21-2008, 12:42 PM
I saw some ****ing jag off throw a beer at a kid who was wearing a Cubs shirt. He standing with his friends screaming Cubs suck. Go back to gay town. The kid turned around and walked the other way. As the kid walked away the dick **** took his full cup of beer and tossed it at him. Thankfully it did not hit the kid. Real ****ing outstanding fans. I agree with kittle42. This year has been acceptional with trash bag *******s. I have left my seats a few times because of idiots.

During the Detroit series I was with my family and this guy was screaming all kinds of stupid ****. I turned around and asked him if he would stop because there were kids around. He then started chanting suck a dick. Not only was my 10 yr old brother with me there were quite a few kids in the area. I yelled at him again and never heard a word out of him after that. Dick head.
OMG, that is terrible. What a thing to do. Throw a beer at a kid. I would have lost it.

spiffie
05-21-2008, 12:49 PM
Civility in general is declining rapidly at public events. It seems to be declining at an even more frightening rate at sporting events. Fan behavior is one reason I just go to less games these days as it becomes no fun to go to a game when everyone around you is an *******.

Chicken Dinner
05-21-2008, 12:59 PM
Civility in general is declining rapidly at public events. It seems to be declining at an even more frightening rate at sporting events. Fan behavior is one reason I just go to less games these days as it becomes no fun to go to a game when everyone around you is an *******.

Wasn't it the Philadelphia Eagles that put a courtroom in the basement so they could try unruly fans on the spot?

QCIASOXFAN
05-21-2008, 01:00 PM
I was pretty pumped up to see my first game of the year next month. Thanks a Millions guys!

alohafri
05-21-2008, 01:03 PM
Seems to be the mentality these days. "I spent my good money to come here. If I want to get drunk and do whatever I want, it's a free country...deal with it." Of course, they are usually slurring their words at this point. Heck, it isn't even just where drinks are served. You go to the movies these days and people talk throughout them as if they were sitting in their own family room. People drive down the road as if there are no other cars out there. Me first! Get out of my way!

Now I think I need a beer...well, I will wait until game time.

kittle42
05-21-2008, 01:40 PM
I saw some ****ing jag off throw a beer at a kid who was wearing a Cubs shirt. He standing with his friends screaming Cubs suck. Go back to gay town. The kid turned around and walked the other way. As the kid walked away the dick **** took his full cup of beer and tossed it at him. Thankfully it did not hit the kid. Real ****ing outstanding fans. I agree with kittle42. This year has been acceptional with trash bag *******s. I have left my seats a few times because of idiots.

I am sure I will be countered with stories of poor Wrigley behavior, but, save for one time back in my rabble-rousing-pre-2005 Sox fan days (I was cheering after a Cub loss in the bleachers in 2002, wearing a Sox hat, and someone grabbed it from me and threw it onto the field; he met me outside the stadium, apologized (as did I for being a bit overly exuberant), and gave me $20 to buy a new hat), I have NEVER seen the kind of behavior I see toward Cub fans at the Cell returned in kind to Sox fans at Wrigley. Cubs/Sox games are different - I am talking regular season, non-interleague games. Sure, I'll get taunted a bit verbally ("Go back to the South Side" is my completely unoriginal favorite, especially since I have always lived on the North Side) or I might get into an argument about the merits of each team, but never like what I see at the Cell. It's disheartening.

PennStater98r
05-21-2008, 02:03 PM
Let them eat cake!!

I love that response Marie A.

Cat Thief
05-21-2008, 02:04 PM
A good percentage.

That's pretty arrogant.

kittle42
05-21-2008, 02:05 PM
That's pretty arrogant.

She's speaking in generalities, of course, which are always far from perfect, and often stereotypical, but also sometimes true.

doublem23
05-21-2008, 02:13 PM
I am sure I will be countered with stories of poor Wrigley behavior, but, save for one time back in my rabble-rousing-pre-2005 Sox fan days (I was cheering after a Cub loss in the bleachers in 2002, wearing a Sox hat, and someone grabbed it from me and threw it onto the field; he met me outside the stadium, apologized (as did I for being a bit overly exuberant), and gave me $20 to buy a new hat), I have NEVER seen the kind of behavior I see toward Cub fans at the Cell returned in kind to Sox fans at Wrigley. Cubs/Sox games are different - I am talking regular season, non-interleague games. Sure, I'll get taunted a bit verbally ("Go back to the South Side" is my completely unoriginal favorite, especially since I have always lived on the North Side) or I might get into an argument about the merits of each team, but never like what I see at the Cell. It's disheartening.

Do a ton of Sox fans go to Wrigley every game just to act like *******s? I don't know, I haven't been to a Cub game since my sophomore year of high school, but I do know almost every time I go to a Sox game at the Cell, there are plenty of guys decked out in Cubs gear who seem to be there only to act like dicks.

:dunno:

Rather than trying to dice people up into specific groups and trying to figure out which group is worse, why can't we all just agree that most people really suck, and when sucky people start getting liquored up, they act like douches.

hi im skot
05-21-2008, 02:16 PM
I've gotten guff the couple games I wore a tie to. The worst was during the last weekday afternoon game when I was walking around with my two year old son. Some Sox "fan" decked out in all the gear made it a point to back up from his group of buddies and block my path. I got by him and all his buddies chuckled.

You stay classy, Sox fans!:rolleyes:

Sorry dude, that was me. That's what happens when your belt doesn't match your shoes.

And that tie? You're too old for a Scooby Doo tie.

kittle42
05-21-2008, 02:17 PM
Do a ton of Sox fans go to Wrigley every game just to act like *******s? I don't know, I haven't been to a Cub game since my sophomore year of high school, but I do know almost every time I go to a Sox game at the Cell, there are plenty of guys decked out in Cubs gear who seem to be there only to act like dicks.

I would say there are fewer of them, because there are fewer Sox fans generally, but yeah, I have seen some.

Rather than trying to dice people up into specific groups and trying to figure out which group is worse, why can't we all just agree that most people really suck, and when sucky people start getting liquored up, they act like a douche.

I completely agree. I really wanted to comment in this thread just to point out that some Sox fans at the park, in my limited experience this season, have been on horrible behavior. The drunk, stupid idiot stereotype is not limited to the Urinal's bleachers, and even there, no one is likely to douse a kid with a beer (unless they just knock it over from being drunk, of course).

Cuck the Fubs
05-21-2008, 02:21 PM
Do a ton of Sox fans go to Wrigley every game just to act like *******s? I don't know, I haven't been to a Cub game since my sophomore year of high school, but I do know almost every time I go to a Sox game at the Cell, there are plenty of guys decked out in Cubs gear who seem to be there only to act like dicks.

:dunno:

Rather than trying to dice people up into specific groups and trying to figure out which group is worse, why can't we all just agree that most people really suck, and when sucky people start getting liquored up, they act like douches.

+ 1

I don't frequent the "shrine" very often, but I always go low key and act civil. These idiots who show up at "the hated dump" The Cell dressed from head to toe in Cub garb talking crap and starting trouble are the ones who say it's unsafe to be there.

Take a long look in the mirror Cub fans........If it's such a dump and the Sox suck so bad, please just stay home and out of the park. I'd actually like to be able to enjoy the game.

That's what the difference is my freind.....I'll take the Cubs fans are 100% bigger jag bags than Sox fans any day of the week.

Jerko
05-21-2008, 02:41 PM
Well if you just break it down to Cub fans vs. Sox fans, yes I would say that more cub fans come to the cell to start **** than the other way around. But, a lot of the idiotic behavior I've seen at the Cell so far this year had nothing to do with the Cub/Sox thing. Just people that can't hold the 3 or 30 beers they had and think that just because they shelled out some dough they can do whatever they want. Well, the people you are aggravating spent money too, they should be able to enjoy the game without a bunch of morons around. ***. I put away my fair share of beer but I'm usually in a good mood when I drink.

spiffie
05-21-2008, 02:51 PM
I would say there are fewer of them, because there are fewer Sox fans generally, but yeah, I have seen some.



I completely agree. I really wanted to comment in this thread just to point out that some Sox fans at the park, in my limited experience this season, have been on horrible behavior. The drunk, stupid idiot stereotype is not limited to the Urinal's bleachers, and even there, no one is likely to douse a kid with a beer (unless they just knock it over from being drunk, of course).
The last part I would argue with. I've seen some utterly repugnant behavior in Wrigley's bleachers. That doesn't excuse idiots in our fanbase, but from my experience you name the awful occurence, and there's an equal chance it happened at either park.

mccoydp
05-21-2008, 02:52 PM
Holy ****. Should I be on guard when I fly in for the Sunday game vs. the Angels this weekend? My wife and I have seats in section 138, row 26. We've been lulled into complacency by uneventful games at Kauffman Stadium.

kittle42
05-21-2008, 02:59 PM
Holy ****. Should I be on guard when I fly in for the Sunday game vs. the Angels this weekend? My wife and I have seats in section 138, row 26. We've been lulled into complacency by uneventful games at Kaufmann Stadium.

Nah. Those are good seats :)

spawn
05-21-2008, 03:07 PM
I've stopped going as much for the very same reason. I swear like a drunken sailor around my friends, but I never do it in crowded places in public. I try to respect those around me. Unfortunately, every time I've gone to a game the last couple of years, people act like straight up *******s. It's embarrassing the way these fools behave, and not just from the standpoint of a Sox fan, but as a human being. And I don't see the need to rip on fans of the opposing team, no matter what team that person is a fan of. I've been to Cubs/Sox games and have had great conversations with Cubs fans. It's only a ****ing game after all.

kittle42
05-21-2008, 04:12 PM
And I don't see the need to rip on fans of the opposing team, no matter what team that person is a fan of.

It's fine if it's in a good-natured manner (after all, there wouldn't be too much fun in the game without rivalries), but people take their sports way too seriously. Probably because sports are one of the easier escapes from real life.

SoxyStu
05-21-2008, 05:18 PM
I still think ushers should be in every section. I think it's always nice to have an extra set of objective eyes to help security along so they don't always have to play the hardass with only having little clue as to what really is going on. Hell, it might even keep some situations from escalating. It's been a few years since I've noticed an usher in every section. Is it because of cost control or a poor choice in hiring?

Frontman
05-21-2008, 05:20 PM
Simply put, I think when this type of freakin' behavior starts; we as true Sox fans should be getting them tossed from the game for their troubles. The only way to keep it from progressing is nipping it in the bud.

Think it would of become a tradition to throw back a home run ball at Wrigley if the majority stood up and said, "Knock that crap off?"

jenn2080
05-21-2008, 05:20 PM
She's speaking in generalities, of course, which are always far from perfect, and often stereotypical, but also sometimes true.



Thanks bud. What a relationship we have formed?:redneck

itsnotrequired
05-21-2008, 05:28 PM
Sorry dude, that was me. That's what happens when your belt doesn't match your shoes.

And that tie? You're too old for a Scooby Doo tie.

Sox fans are the worst, both in attitudes and choice of clothing.

Foulke You
05-21-2008, 05:33 PM
Is this the official "bash our own fans" thread? I've gone to plenty of games the past few years and there is variation from game to game on what is a "good" crowd or a "bad" crowd. For the most part, I'd say our fans are well behaved and friendly. However, there are going to be a few loud or drunk knuckleheads in any section in any MLB park.

kittle42
05-21-2008, 05:36 PM
Thanks bud. What a relationship we have formed?:redneck

I think it was prompted by Henry's departure. :D:

tony1972
05-21-2008, 05:38 PM
I was at the game last night, and it was a busy game for Sox Security in my area. First of all, there were two fans in my section that kept standing up and chanting "CLEVELAND SUCKS!" all night long. Eventually, by the bottom of the 8th inning, Sox Security came and escorted them out. A third fan was given a warning by Sox Security, but after the inning ended, he was forcibly removed by Sox Security and tried to put up a fight as he was being taken away. Before that, in the section to my left, Sox Security came en masse to break up a fight between two women.

Sox Security was on their game last night, and they weren't taking anything from anybody. And I commend Sox Security for this because, like you, I am tired of fans like this embarrassing our franchise. Just because someone has a ticket to a game, these drillrods think they have a God-given right to act like a complete *******. Hopefully, they all got to spend a nice evening at the Bridgeport Crossbar Hotel and 35th & Lowe.

These were obviously Cubs fans who came to see a 'real' baseball team...

Us Sox fans are absolute Angels...:D:...why..if there wasn't already a team in California with that name..they might use that as a nickname for our White Sox and us fans...

jonred
05-21-2008, 05:39 PM
Wow...I thought that just happened on the north side of town.

jenn2080
05-21-2008, 05:49 PM
I think it was prompted by Henry's departure. :D:


It has been love ever since :redneck:tongue:

Red Barchetta
05-21-2008, 06:03 PM
Funny, because of the 98% of the SOX games I've attended in my life, I've never seen any kind or borish, crazy or "I'm embarrassed to be a Sox fan" behavior.

The other 2% are the Cubs intraleague and ironically Cleveland games. The Cubs games obviously bring out the crazies, however there is something about the Cleveland rivalry that always brings out the thugs.

I remember a few years ago (pre-US Cellular renovations) when I was in line at the Best Koscher stand on the 3rd base side. I heard a Sox and Indian fan ghenind me in line going at over teams, fans, ballparks, etc. As I was placing my order I hear a smack and by the time I turned around the Cleveland fan was on his ass. However, to their credit, the SOX security was right on it. No more punches. Both were thrown out and I got my Koscher, beer and went back to my seat.

Outside of few overserved Cub-Sox fan exchanges, no problems. Again, must be something with the Tribe rivalry....

jenn2080
05-21-2008, 06:06 PM
Funny, because of the 98% of the SOX games I've attended in my life, I've never seen any kind or borish, crazy or "I'm embarrassed to be a Sox fan" behavior.

The other 2% are the Cubs intraleague and ironically Cleveland games. The Cubs games obviously bring out the crazies, however there is something about the Cleveland rivalry that always brings out the thugs.

I remember a few years ago (pre-US Cellular renovations) when I was in line at the Best Koscher stand on the 3rd base side. I heard a Sox and Indian fan ghenind me in line going at over teams, fans, ballparks, etc. As I was placing my order I hear a smack and by the time I turned around the Cleveland fan was on his ass. However, to their credit, the SOX security was right on it. No more punches. Both were thrown out and I got my Koscher, beer and went back to my seat.

Outside of few overserved Cub-Sox fan exchanges, no problems. Again, must be something with the Tribe rivalry....
No this is every game we are all talking about. The fans are *******s. I got to about 40 some games a year and almost all of them have some sort of *******s that make you embarassed to be at a game or be a fan.

GlassSox
05-21-2008, 07:37 PM
I propose that "drillrod" become the official WSI euphemism for buffoonery. :D:

I vote YES, "drillrod" = buffoonery :cool:

Medford Bobby
05-21-2008, 08:33 PM
That's funny but I forgot during my only visit to the cell since 1991 (Trophy game 4-5-06) there were some Indians fans baiting on the Sox fans sitting around our section...they were crude with some language, but it never really got out of hand.

Where as all those years that I have been to other parks like Coors, Safeco and the BOB, I never heard or seen what I have been reading here in this thread......:?:

Does any body still yell "HEY HARRY" any more around the 8th or 9th inning....?

skottyj242
05-22-2008, 09:10 AM
Just to put my two cents in...Last night was a sold out game and I thought it was one of the best behaved crowds of the year (I hate the wave but hey, I didn't see any fights.) Stay classy guys.

tony1972
05-22-2008, 09:27 AM
Just to put my two cents in...Last night was a sold out game and I thought it was one of the best behaved crowds of the year (I hate the wave but hey, I didn't see any fights.) Stay classy guys.

there are good and bad fans in every sport...our area is going to the game tonight and one guy who's a Cubs fan who wears everything Cubs bought a Sox hat for tonight's game...that's pretty classy...

TomBradley72
05-22-2008, 09:41 AM
I've been to 4 games so far this year....seems a little rowdier than I've seen, 3/4 had a pretty big incident involving security.

I do think overall the White Sox are taking a step back overall in both security (and not to hijack, but customer service at the concession stands...bad attitudes, unprepared, start closing down/running out of food in the 8th).

Security isn't very visible and they are very slow to react to escalating incidents going on. I've been to alot of the ballparks around the league...most seem to have a better system/approach than the Sox from my experience.

tony1972
05-22-2008, 09:45 AM
I've been to 4 games so far this year....seems a little rowdier than I've seen, 3/4 had a pretty big incident involving security.

I do think overall the White Sox are taking a step back overall in both security (and not to hijack, but customer service at the concession stands...bad attitudes, unprepared, start closing down/running out of food in the 8th).

Security isn't very visible and they are very slow to react to escalating incidents going on. I've been to alot of the ballparks around the league...most seem to have a better system/approach than the Sox from my experience.

Part of this (and I'm not justifying) is not so much lessened security...but generally the Sox have been drawing large crowds (if not sellouts) for 3 years in a row now...

18,000 is a lot easier to control than 38,0000.....this is not an excuse...but i think it's part of it...

BainesHOF
05-22-2008, 09:47 AM
The fans are *******s. I got to about 40 some games a year and almost all of them have some sort of *******s that make you embarassed to be at a game or be a fan.

Having had season tickets in the bleachers for a handful of years, I would agree. So many people are complete idiots. Racist and homophobic comments along with people starting trouble with someone wearing a hat or t-shirt of another team were among the norm. I'm no saint, but the language is ridiculous. I'd never bring my little nephew to a night game.

Unfortunately, it's the way society has turned in the last 10 or so years.

tony1972
05-22-2008, 09:50 AM
Having had season tickets in the bleachers for a handful of years, I would agree. So many people are complete idiots. Racist and homophobic comments along with people starting trouble with someone wearing a hat or t-shirt of another team were among the norm. I'm no saint, but the language is ridiculous. I'd never bring my little nephew to a night game.

Unfortunately, it's the way society has turned in the last 10 or so years.

Agreed...I think this is just in general...not with the White Sox...have you been to the movies lately? cell phones ringing, crying babies, etc... people think being rude is funny or OK now...before it was considered embarassing...

twentywontowin
05-22-2008, 09:53 AM
Just to put my two cents in...Last night was a sold out game and I thought it was one of the best behaved crowds of the year (I hate the wave but hey, I didn't see any fights.) Stay classy guys.

Unless you're the Indians fan that was up in the RF upper deck corner. On his way out, fans were singing the Na Na Na Na to him, and decided to take it upon himself to stand in front of the walkway and flip off the crowd and encouraging them to throw stuff at him.

Some guy chucked a full beer at him and it smacked him in the head.

alohafri
05-22-2008, 10:00 AM
Just to put my two cents in...Last night was a sold out game and I thought it was one of the best behaved crowds of the year (I hate the wave but hey, I didn't see any fights.) Stay classy guys.

I spoke to a couple of guys in cub jerseys in the parking lot (their girlfriends were Sox fans). I was giving them a hard time about not being able to start their grill ("if your stadium had parking, you might be able to tailgate and then you would know how to light a grill"). They knew that they were going to get harassed and were having fun with it. That was cool.

Some dad needed to get his ass kicked though for letting his son come to a Sox game wearing a cub tee shirt and making a sign that said "Go Indians." Is there any real need for that crap?

itsnotrequired
05-22-2008, 10:02 AM
Some guy chucked a full beer at him and it smacked him in the head.

Stay classy, Sox fans.

:rolleyes:

Jerko
05-22-2008, 10:02 AM
I've been to 4 games so far this year....seems a little rowdier than I've seen, 3/4 had a pretty big incident involving security.

I do think overall the White Sox are taking a step back overall in both security (and not to hijack, but customer service at the concession stands...bad attitudes, unprepared, start closing down/running out of food in the 8th).

Security isn't very visible and they are very slow to react to escalating incidents going on. I've been to alot of the ballparks around the league...most seem to have a better system/approach than the Sox from my experience.

After that o-fer road trip, I noticed that as well. They were in pre-2005 "get the **** out of here, you're bothering us" mode. I think if the Sox stay hot and once the weather warms up, they'll be better prepared.

tony1972
05-22-2008, 10:04 AM
Unless you're the Indians fan that was up in the RF upper deck corner. On his way out, fans were singing the Na Na Na Na to him, and decided to take it upon himself to stand in front of the walkway and flip off the crowd and encouraging them to throw stuff at him.

Some guy chucked a full beer at him and it smacked him in the head.

that's really stupid...did you know a beer cost $6.50?:o:

doublem23
05-22-2008, 10:14 AM
Some dad needed to get his ass kicked though for letting his son come to a Sox game wearing a cub tee shirt and making a sign that said "Go Indians." Is there any real need for that crap?

This is the kind of bull**** I'm talking about. OK, in a perfect world, we'd all be able to get along and have a good laugh about the Cubs/Sox rivalry, but why come to our park if your just going to incite a reaction? What's the point? I can't feel bad for the jag-offs who do this (such as our bird-flipping Indian-fan friend in the RF upper deck) since they're pretty much asking to be given a hard time. Sorry, it would be one thing if you came to a Sox game in a Cub/Cleveland hat and just sat their and minded your own business and some drunk ****face gave you more than some good-natured ribbing, but I don't feel that sorry for you if you come to our park with no other intention than to "get rowdy" and behave like an *******.

kittle42
05-22-2008, 10:22 AM
one guy who's a Cubs fan who wears everything Cubs bought a Sox hat for tonight's game...that's pretty classy...

I think it's sacrilege.

kittle42
05-22-2008, 10:25 AM
Some dad needed to get his ass kicked though for letting his son come to a Sox game wearing a cub tee shirt and making a sign that said "Go Indians." Is there any real need for that crap?

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. I used to pull that crap at Wrigley when I was younger. Hell, I just went to Wrigley earlier this year with a Sox jersey and Mets hat on. They were playing the Mets and we were going to see the Sox play later that night.

kittle42
05-22-2008, 10:27 AM
This is the kind of bull**** I'm talking about. OK, in a perfect world, we'd all be able to get along and have a good laugh about the Cubs/Sox rivalry, but why come to our park if your just going to incite a reaction? What's the point? I can't feel bad for the jag-offs who do this (such as our bird-flipping Indian-fan friend in the RF upper deck) since they're pretty much asking to be given a hard time. Sorry, it would be one thing if you came to a Sox game in a Cub/Cleveland hat and just sat their and minded your own business and some drunk ****face gave you more than some good-natured ribbing, but I don't feel that sorry for you if you come to our park with no other intention than to "get rowdy" and behave like an *******.

Well, I just think that unless you're personally insulting someone (and it better be really ****ing bad), things should be left at mere words. This beer throwing and the like is ALWAYS uncalled for. Always. Anyone who turns a confrontation physical is the stupidest person present.

itsnotrequired
05-22-2008, 10:28 AM
Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. I used to pull that crap at Wrigley when I was younger. Hell, I just went to Wrigley earlier this year with a Sox jersey and Mets hat on. They were playing the Mets and we were going to see the Sox play later that night.

People like you are what is wrong with Amerika.

doublem23
05-22-2008, 10:37 AM
Well, I just think that unless you're personally insulting someone (and it better be really ****ing bad), things should be left at mere words. This beer throwing and the like is ALWAYS uncalled for. Always. Anyone who turns a confrontation physical is the stupidest person present.

I hope I didn't come off as excusing that type of reaction from Sox fans, I merely meant to say that I'm not going to be as embarrassed by it as say, like that incident that happened earlier at Turner Field, in which a drunk yahoo Brave fan punched a Pirate fan in the nose, who was sitting there watching the game, but keeping to himself.

I'm willing to excuse wearing another team's stuff (though, wearing Cubs or Sox stuff to the others' park is kind of lame except during the Crosstown Series), but once you cross the line into obnoxious cheering, overly excited cheering, and general douchebaggery, you're starting to play with fire. We can sit here all day and talk about how disgusting and unruly Sox fans have been this year, etc. but when you purposely intent to ruffle the feathers of thousands of people, you've got to realize you're going to catch 1 guy on the wrong day and it's going to get nasty.

Sometimes these situations at games aren't avoidable, but usually, they are.

alohafri
05-22-2008, 10:58 AM
Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. I used to pull that crap at Wrigley when I was younger. Hell, I just went to Wrigley earlier this year with a Sox jersey and Mets hat on. They were playing the Mets and we were going to see the Sox play later that night.

Well...if you had gotten your ass kicked...:cool:

TomBradley72
05-22-2008, 11:03 AM
After that o-fer road trip, I noticed that as well. They were in pre-2005 "get the **** out of here, you're bothering us" mode. I think if the Sox stay hot and once the weather warms up, they'll be better prepared.

That attitude completely pisses me off. Small crowd or large crowd...I drop $40 on a ticket, $20 for parking, another $30 on beer/food...I'm a customer...and I deserve good service. I've been to 18 different parks around the league..and some of them have been very small crowds. I've never had a similar experience at another park.

This has been a chronic issue with this team for 20 years. It was really improving in 2006-2006...but I think they are backsliding.

Jerko
05-22-2008, 12:14 PM
That attitude completely pisses me off. Small crowd or large crowd...I drop $40 on a ticket, $20 for parking, another $30 on beer/food...I'm a customer...and I deserve good service. I've been to 18 different parks around the league..and some of them have been very small crowds. I've never had a similar experience at another park.

This has been a chronic issue with this team for 20 years. It was really improving in 2006-2006...but I think they are backsliding.

I agree. My seats used to be in left center and we couldn't get a beer or a kosher dog unless we walked all the way behind the plate, and this was in the 5th or 6th inning. Then of course the line is 40 feet long because all the other stands were closed. I didn't wait. The worst though was the old "lock the bathroom before the game ends" trick. I was furious that night. I was standing on the concourse, the last out was made, so I figured I'd run in real fast, take care of business, and hit the road, and the ****in door was locked. They must have cleared everybody out while the game was still going on. I complained and they said "well we didn't sell many tickets in that area of the park that night". It was the 100 level by gate 5. I don't foresee things getting THAT bad again, but it WAS leaning that way during that short 3 game homestand after that lost road trip. Maybe that had something to do with it?

tick53
05-24-2008, 09:35 AM
The breakdown of general civility in this country is amazing. It happens at sporting events, the marketplace, the workplace, schools, the roadways and just about every situation where the populace congregates. The moral decay of society is progressing at an alarming rate. A lot of the troublemakers that are mentioned in this thread are young kids who were never taught right from wrong and have not been exposed to the minimum level of social graces.

A story that keeps haunting me comes back in '05 when the Sox were playing the Mariners on a Saturday. It was the 1 hour, 39 minutes game that Burls pitched. I was in section 119 and after the inning was over, I was on my way to the concourse for a restroom break when I encountered a young punk kid wearing a Sox jersey getting in the face of some little Asian guy in his late forties wearing an Ichiro jersey. The little guy was still in his seat next to his wife and little boy trembling in fear. The supposed Sox fan was cussing at the guy as saying, " you got the f****** balls to wear a Mariners shirt to a Sox game? Don't you know where you're at you (Asian slang word) b*****d? The cussing guy was twice as big as the Asian guy and it infuriated me. I told the cussing nicely to cool out and leave the man alone. I reminded him that as Sox fans we have an obligation to ourselves to be tolerant of people and enjoy the game. He told me that if I was a true Sox fan that I should be on his side. I replied that I am a true Sox fan and I was attending games way before he was even a twinkle in his fathers eye so leave the man and his family alone. They did nothing to hurt you. The guy called me a traitor and took off when he look behing me and saw my 350 pound buddy standing behind him. I apologized to the nice couple and tried to re-assure them that not all White Sox fans acted that way. They were still so frightened by the thought of physical harm that I doubt they even heard me.

cards press box
05-24-2008, 11:33 AM
A story that keeps haunting me comes back in '05 when the Sox were playing the Mariners on a Saturday. It was the 1 hour, 39 minutes game that Burls pitched. I was in section 119 and after the inning was over, I was on my way to the concourse for a restroom break when I encountered a young punk kid wearing a Sox jersey getting in the face of some little Asian guy in his late forties wearing an Ichiro jersey. The little guy was still in his seat next to his wife and little boy trembling in fear. The supposed Sox fan was cussing at the guy as saying, " you got the f****** balls to wear a Mariners shirt to a Sox game? Don't you know where you're at you (Asian slang word) b*****d? The cussing guy was twice as big as the Asian guy and it infuriated me. I told the cussing nicely to cool out and leave the man alone. I reminded him that as Sox fans we have an obligation to ourselves to be tolerant of people and enjoy the game. He told me that if I was a true Sox fan that I should be on his side. I replied that I am a true Sox fan and I was attending games way before he was even a twinkle in his fathers eye so leave the man and his family alone. They did nothing to hurt you. The guy called me a traitor and took off when he look behing me and saw my 350 pound buddy standing behind him. I apologized to the nice couple and tried to re-assure them that not all White Sox fans acted that way. They were still so frightened by the thought of physical harm that I doubt they even heard me.

I was at that game, too. Boy, your story is troubling in many ways. I agree that standards of civility have taken a tumble in recent years and that, in turn, can be seen in the behavior of ballgame crowds. I saw the Sox in Minnesota back in 2005 and I was surprised at how insanely hostile some Twins fans were. On the other side of the coin, I have noticed that visiting fans of certain teams (Cubs, Red Sox and Indians come to mind) have been increasingly obnoxious when visiting the Cell.

I'm glad that you tried to straigten that guy out. And the upshot of all this: while that moronic fan was having his ignorant tantrum abusing the Ichiro fan and frightening the fan's family, he missed one of the best games one could ever want to see. Other than Ichiro (who had, I think, 2 or 3 hits), the entire Mariners lineup went hitless against Buerhle.

Rockman218
05-24-2008, 11:35 AM
What's wrong with chanting "Cleveland Sucks!" I don't get why that would warrant getting ejected from the stadium?

Viva Medias B's
05-24-2008, 10:26 PM
What's wrong with chanting "Cleveland Sucks!" I don't get why that would warrant getting ejected from the stadium?

I should emphasize that the fan was doing it throughout the game and also occastionally chanted "**** LEBRON!"

WSox597
05-25-2008, 07:20 AM
I should emphasize that the fan was doing it throughout the game and also occastionally chanted "**** LEBRON!"

I guess if I was from Cleveland, I'd just laugh at that, considering Lebron is better than all of the current Bulls rolled into one player. And his team is still playing, while the Bulls are golfing, or hopefully, practicing shooting somewhere. :smile:

I agree that society in general is crude and vulgar. Just look at the TV offerings for confirmation. Things are said on TV that never would have been heard 30 years ago.

It filters down to the rest of society since people watch so much TV.

Rockman218
05-25-2008, 09:24 AM
I should emphasize that the fan was doing it throughout the game and also occastionally chanted "**** LEBRON!"

That's true. That would be kind of aggravating.

Vernam
05-25-2008, 09:35 AM
It filters down to the rest of society since people watch so much TV.That's kind of sad but probably true. Maybe my old-school dad was right to be pissed when movies started routinely using ****, ****, and other curse words. I thought he was just being an old crab, but maybe he knew it would contribute to a society where little kids aren't safe to enjoy a baseball game, which is pretty pathetic.

One of my favorite Sopranos moments was when AJ was working at Blockbuster. He and a co-worker were talking behind the counter, completely ignoring a female customer who held her toddler as she waited to check out. AJ and his friend were dropping f-bombs left and right with no regard for who might be present. Because it's a given that Sopranos creator David Chase thought AJ was a clueless fool, I think that scene was a bit of commentary on all the clueless fools who think it's okay to swear in public. And it was probably sort of a mea culpa because Chase is smart enough to know that great shows like his have unfortunately contributed to the problem.

Vernam

tick53
05-26-2008, 08:05 AM
I was at that game, too. Boy, your story is troubling in many ways. I agree that standards of civility have taken a tumble in recent years and that, in turn, can be seen in the behavior of ballgame crowds. I saw the Sox in Minnesota back in 2005 and I was surprised at how insanely hostile some Twins fans were. On the other side of the coin, I have noticed that visiting fans of certain teams (Cubs, Red Sox and Indians come to mind) have been increasingly obnoxious when visiting the Cell.

I'm glad that you tried to straigten that guy out. And the upshot of all this: while that moronic fan was having his ignorant tantrum abusing the Ichiro fan and frightening the fan's family, he missed one of the best games one could ever want to see. Other than Ichiro (who had, I think, 2 or 3 hits), the entire Mariners lineup went hitless against Buerhle.

You're right cards, other fans come to our house and cause trouble. What guts it takes. There's a lot people who think they're 10 feet tall and bulletproof. Like Al Pacino said in the movie Any Given Sunday, "I'm glad I'm gettin' old".

twentywontowin
05-26-2008, 10:04 AM
I definitely had an interesting experience last night to say the least.

I'm sitting in our seats talking to my friends next to me, it's in the 2nd inning. Next thing I know, my legs are covered in beer. Turns out the woman sitting next to me, had accidentally dribbled some beer on the woman in the row in front of us. The woman in front of us thought I did it, and chucked her whole beer at me. To note, this woman is in her 50s.

I called security up to get her thrown out, but the woman denied the whole thing happening, and even with multiple witnesses, security didn't get rid of her. Whatever, it's a little beer, I shrugged it off.

So at the end of the game, this woman turns around and tells me "Look, I'm sorry I threw beer at you. Here is my e-mail address (writted on a season ticket). These are my season seats and I'd like to give you my tickets to any game you'd like. So she flat out lied to security, and then tries to bribe me? Not a chance.

Her e-mail address is to one of the largest universities in the city. I look it up, turns out she is a DEAN, pulling crap like this. And on top of it, her e-mail address is now on her own season ticket stock, complete with account number.

I'm writing a letter to her university to let them know that one of their esteemed deans doesn't need to be throwing beer at people in public, and on top of it, contacting people I know in the Sox ticket office to see if we can't get her tickets taken away. We don't need people like this at the games.

Payback is a bitch.

Jerko
05-26-2008, 10:31 AM
Last night wasn't too bad until right after the walkoff. Some idiot throws a full beer up into the air after the homer showering a few people I was with. then he acted like the "fallout" was coming from the fireworks. You can see where the cup hit the ground (big splat) and you can see the shower effect it had on the garbage can and a few people standing around. It wasn't a full fledged pouring, but a few people got a shower they didn't expect. People can't seem to hold, or hold onto, their beer lately.

Standing Ovation
05-26-2008, 11:49 AM
I definitely had an interesting experience last night to say the least.

I'm sitting in our seats talking to my friends next to me, it's in the 2nd inning. Next thing I know, my legs are covered in beer. Turns out the woman sitting next to me, had accidentally dribbled some beer on the woman in the row in front of us. The woman in front of us thought I did it, and chucked her whole beer at me. To note, this woman is in her 50s.

I called security up to get her thrown out, but the woman denied the whole thing happening, and even with multiple witnesses, security didn't get rid of her. Whatever, it's a little beer, I shrugged it off.

So at the end of the game, this woman turns around and tells me "Look, I'm sorry I threw beer at you. Here is my e-mail address (writted on a season ticket). These are my season seats and I'd like to give you my tickets to any game you'd like. So she flat out lied to security, and then tries to bribe me? Not a chance.

Her e-mail address is to one of the largest universities in the city. I look it up, turns out she is a DEAN, pulling crap like this. And on top of it, her e-mail address is now on her own season ticket stock, complete with account number.

I'm writing a letter to her university to let them know that one of their esteemed deans doesn't need to be throwing beer at people in public, and on top of it, contacting people I know in the Sox ticket office to see if we can't get her tickets taken away. We don't need people like this at the games.

Payback is a bitch.

I obviously wasn't the one who got dumped on, but don't ya think you're overreacting a bit? She lied to security, yes, but ultimately apologized and offered you free tickets. Write a letter to her employer or try to get her tickets pulled? Damn, take the tickets and chalk it up to her having a bad night.

The Immigrant
05-26-2008, 12:02 PM
I'm writing a letter to her university to let them know that one of their esteemed deans doesn't need to be throwing beer at people in public, and on top of it, contacting people I know in the Sox ticket office to see if we can't get her tickets taken away. We don't need people like this at the games.

:rolling: You might also want to write to your congressman.

In all seriousness, be the better person and accept her offer of free tickets to a future game.

Elephant
05-26-2008, 12:03 PM
I definitely had an interesting experience last night to say the least.

I'm sitting in our seats talking to my friends next to me, it's in the 2nd inning. Next thing I know, my legs are covered in beer. Turns out the woman sitting next to me, had accidentally dribbled some beer on the woman in the row in front of us. The woman in front of us thought I did it, and chucked her whole beer at me. To note, this woman is in her 50s.

I called security up to get her thrown out, but the woman denied the whole thing happening, and even with multiple witnesses, security didn't get rid of her. Whatever, it's a little beer, I shrugged it off.

So at the end of the game, this woman turns around and tells me "Look, I'm sorry I threw beer at you. Here is my e-mail address (writted on a season ticket). These are my season seats and I'd like to give you my tickets to any game you'd like. So she flat out lied to security, and then tries to bribe me? Not a chance.

Her e-mail address is to one of the largest universities in the city. I look it up, turns out she is a DEAN, pulling crap like this. And on top of it, her e-mail address is now on her own season ticket stock, complete with account number.

I'm writing a letter to her university to let them know that one of their esteemed deans doesn't need to be throwing beer at people in public, and on top of it, contacting people I know in the Sox ticket office to see if we can't get her tickets taken away. We don't need people like this at the games.

Payback is a bitch.

She was probably drunk, made a few bad decisions, and then tried to rectify it by offering you free tickets. Take the tickets and don't be a toolbox. Or you can write some long winded persecuted letter to Ivy League State and have it shredded by the dean herself, and have no free tickets.

BadBobbyJenks
05-26-2008, 12:07 PM
I thought the fans last night were great. I did not see anything terrible except for a douche who thought it was funny to walk to the railing and call Gary Matthews a ***** when the Angels would take the field. Really Hilarious buddy.:rolleyes:

Elephant
05-26-2008, 12:12 PM
Farmer mentioned it on the radio but by the time I got the TV on it was already over. Supposedly some idiot with one of those laser-pointers was shining it in Dotel's eye.

It wasn't a laser pointer but a mirror of some sort. I was sitting in the first row of section 125, right behind the Indians dugout, and the light came from the upper deck directly behind me. It was aimed right at Dotel's face. He had just thrown two straight balls and I was sure the distraction would mess him up, but he rebounded nicely.

Overall, I thought there were fewer jagoffs there last night than most nights. Tribe fans tend to be awful quiet when their team blows.

Hafner, by the way, looks like he's dropped about 25 lbs and Martinez and Sizemore about 15 lbs each. C.C., on the other hand, is still as fat as ever.

That's right, it was a mirror. It was a large bright spot, impossible to mistaken for a red laser pointer. I'm not surprised to know Mike North doesn't watch games.

Anyway, I was at the first two games of the Cleveland series and saw nothing unsavory first hand. Both were great games to be at and no fights or classless **** going on.

twentywontowin
05-26-2008, 12:20 PM
I obviously wasn't the one who got dumped on, but don't ya think you're overreacting a bit? She lied to security, yes, but ultimately apologized and offered you free tickets. Write a letter to her employer or try to get her tickets pulled? Damn, take the tickets and chalk it up to her having a bad night.

Trust me on this one. The word "assault" was thrown around at first, and then she got nervous with security.

The way she came off, is it was a blatent bribe and her trying to use her tickets so I would keep my mouth shut and not pursue the matter further after the game. A lot of the context is lost if you weren't there in person.

Normally I wouldn't pull a personal matter into a work matter...but as a respected individual of a university that you represent, you shouldn't be tossing beers at people. If she does this the one time, it's probably not the first, and the proper people need to know that this behavior is unacceptable...especially when the people you're sitting with are alumni of the university she works at. So even if I don't complain, I'm sure one of the friends in my party will, because they are embarassed at the behavior.

And like the Bears do, if you're acting like an idiot in the seats, you can have your tickets pulled. This is why my friend told me to file a formal complaint with him and they (Sox) will pursue the issue, because frankly they are more upset than I am about it.

Hell, people that didn't get beer tossed on them are more upset than I am. Like I said, it wasn't a big deal at first, until the bribe came out.

kevingrt
05-26-2008, 12:21 PM
I thought the fans last night were great. I did not see anything terrible except for a douche who thought it was funny to walk to the railing and call Gary Matthews a ***** when the Angels would take the field. Really Hilarious buddy.:rolleyes:

I agree last night's crowd was just awesome in my section 529. I did go down and see the blow-up doll in the outfield that was friggin' hilarious. But to tell you the truth I think more people were having beers after the game in the parking lots then before the game. I was in Lot G and I'd say 60% of the people out there were having beers after the game waiting for traffic to die down.

Soxaholic
05-26-2008, 12:25 PM
I agree. My seats used to be in left center and we couldn't get a beer or a kosher dog unless we walked all the way behind the plate, and this was in the 5th or 6th inning. Then of course the line is 40 feet long because all the other stands were closed. I didn't wait. The worst though was the old "lock the bathroom before the game ends" trick. I was furious that night. I was standing on the concourse, the last out was made, so I figured I'd run in real fast, take care of business, and hit the road, and the ****in door was locked. They must have cleared everybody out while the game was still going on. I complained and they said "well we didn't sell many tickets in that area of the park that night". It was the 100 level by gate 5. I don't foresee things getting THAT bad again, but it WAS leaning that way during that short 3 game homestand after that lost road trip. Maybe that had something to do with it?

Kosher stands remain open till the end of the 7th. It has been this way for at least 6 years. Only the main concession stands remain open till the end of the game.

Standing Ovation
05-26-2008, 12:37 PM
Trust me on this one. The word "assault" was thrown around at first, and then she got nervous with security.

The way she came off, is it was a blatent bribe and her trying to use her tickets so I would keep my mouth shut and not pursue the matter further after the game. A lot of the context is lost if you weren't there in person.

Normally I wouldn't pull a personal matter into a work matter...but as a respected individual of a university that you represent, you shouldn't be tossing beers at people. If she does this the one time, it's probably not the first, and the proper people need to know that this behavior is unacceptable...especially when the people you're sitting with are alumni of the university she works at. So even if I don't complain, I'm sure one of the friends in my party will, because they are embarassed at the behavior.

And like the Bears do, if you're acting like an idiot in the seats, you can have your tickets pulled. This is why my friend told me to file a formal complaint with him and they (Sox) will pursue the issue, because frankly they are more upset than I am about it.

Hell, people that didn't get beer tossed on them are more upset than I am. Like I said, it wasn't a big deal at first, until the bribe came out.

That's cool, I wasn't there.

Now, we get to play guessing game for which school.

My vote's for UIC.

fquaye149
05-26-2008, 12:44 PM
Trust me on this one. The word "assault" was thrown around at first, and then she got nervous with security.

The way she came off, is it was a blatent bribe and her trying to use her tickets so I would keep my mouth shut and not pursue the matter further after the game. A lot of the context is lost if you weren't there in person.

Normally I wouldn't pull a personal matter into a work matter...but as a respected individual of a university that you represent, you shouldn't be tossing beers at people. If she does this the one time, it's probably not the first, and the proper people need to know that this behavior is unacceptable...especially when the people you're sitting with are alumni of the university she works at. So even if I don't complain, I'm sure one of the friends in my party will, because they are embarassed at the behavior.

And like the Bears do, if you're acting like an idiot in the seats, you can have your tickets pulled. This is why my friend told me to file a formal complaint with him and they (Sox) will pursue the issue, because frankly they are more upset than I am about it.

Hell, people that didn't get beer tossed on them are more upset than I am. Like I said, it wasn't a big deal at first, until the bribe came out.

Assault? :rolleyes:

Considering you're the guy operating on the fringes of the boundaries of ethics with the whole burrito ****, you might chill the **** out about some chick throwing beer on you and then trying to "bribe" (:rolleyes:) you with free tickets.

You're not wrong...Walter...you're just...an *******

Rocky Soprano
05-26-2008, 12:56 PM
Trust me on this one. The word "assault" was thrown around at first, and then she got nervous with security.

The way she came off, is it was a blatent bribe and her trying to use her tickets so I would keep my mouth shut and not pursue the matter further after the game. A lot of the context is lost if you weren't there in person.

Normally I wouldn't pull a personal matter into a work matter...but as a respected individual of a university that you represent, you shouldn't be tossing beers at people. If she does this the one time, it's probably not the first, and the proper people need to know that this behavior is unacceptable...especially when the people you're sitting with are alumni of the university she works at. So even if I don't complain, I'm sure one of the friends in my party will, because they are embarassed at the behavior.

And like the Bears do, if you're acting like an idiot in the seats, you can have your tickets pulled. This is why my friend told me to file a formal complaint with him and they (Sox) will pursue the issue, because frankly they are more upset than I am about it.

Hell, people that didn't get beer tossed on them are more upset than I am. Like I said, it wasn't a big deal at first, until the bribe came out.

At least to me, you come off as having your panties in a bunch.
She thought you threw beer at her so she retaliated. Yes it was wrong of her. She apologized and is trying to make it up to you with some free tickets. You call it a bribe, I call it her trying to make it up to you.

Like a few have said, take the high road.

Or write your letter, I am sure that she will get fired and have her tickets pulled.

twentywontowin
05-26-2008, 01:02 PM
Assault? :rolleyes:

Considering you're the guy operating on the fringes of the boundaries of ethics with the whole burrito ****, you might chill the **** out about some chick throwing beer on you and then trying to "bribe" (:rolleyes:) you with free tickets.

You're not wrong...Walter...you're just...an *******

Hate to break it to you, but throwing beer on someone could be classified as a simple assault since there was no attempt to injure. If you were to pursue it with the authorities, they would take it as such.

And for the people who say to brush it off and take the high road..that may work for you. But that's what is wrong with society today, we're letting too many people get away with things like this. It starts with throwing a beer on a person, and tomorrow it can be punching a guy in the face because he accidentally bumped into you. You have to draw the line with some of these people and make it known that their behavior in public is unacceptable and can result in serious consequences.

Put it this way, how does she know that I'm not an off-duty police officer? One simple thing like that and she is spending the night in the tank.

fquaye149
05-26-2008, 01:04 PM
Hate to break it to you, but throwing beer on someone could be classified as a simple assault since there was no attempt to injure. If you were to pursue it with the authorities, they would take it as such.

Like I said, you're not wrong...you're just being a ********


And for the people who say to brush it off and take the high road..that may work for you. But that's what is wrong with society today, we're letting too many people get away with things like this. It starts with throwing a beer on a person, and tomorrow it can be punching a guy in the face because he accidentally bumped into you. You have to draw the line with some of these people and make it known that their behavior in public is unacceptable and can result in serious consequences.:rolleyes:


Put it this way, how does she know that I'm not an off-duty police officer? One simple thing like that and she is spending the night in the tank.So what's your point?

Do whatever you want, but realize that most people think you're being a dick. That may not be relevant to you, but considering you posted this on this board like you were proud of it, it may be worthwhile to know that many people--including most of the people who defended you in that chipotle thread--think you're being a petty pud

twentywontowin
05-26-2008, 01:04 PM
At least to me, you come off as having your panties in a bunch.
She thought you threw beer at her so she retaliated. Yes it was wrong of her. She apologized and is trying to make it up to you with some free tickets. You call it a bribe, I call it her trying to make it up to you.

Like a few have said, take the high road.

Or write your letter, I am sure that she will get fired and have her tickets pulled.

Honestly, like I said before, you would have to have been there to catch the tone and context the tickets were offered in. If it was of a nice gesture, I would accept the offer and that would be that.

It was definitely a "Here's some free tickets so I don't get in trouble" sort of offer. Entirely a different matter.

twentywontowin
05-26-2008, 01:05 PM
Like I said, you're not wrong...you're just being a ********

:rolleyes:

So what's your point?

Do whatever you want, but realize that most people think you're being a dick

If I'm an *******, so be it. Wouldn't be the first time.

Do I care what anyone on here thinks of me? Not one bit.

fquaye149
05-26-2008, 01:07 PM
If I'm an *******, so be it. Wouldn't be the first time.

That's your prerogative.

She did something wrong then tried to apologize. You have the right to accept or not accept her apology.

It's all whatever. Just don't expect to brag about being a pud and have people pat you on the back for it

twentywontowin
05-26-2008, 01:10 PM
That's your prerogative.

She did something wrong then tried to apologize. You have the right to accept or not accept her apology.

It's all whatever. Just don't expect to brag about being a pud and have people pat you on the back for it

There's a definite line between an apologizing gesture and something to try and keep my mouth shut. If you're there to catch the full context of it, it's definitely a clear cut bribe.

And it's not bragging, it's me offering a contribution to this thread that is detailing the fan instances in the stands this year. Once again, I don't give a **** what anyone thinks of me. I only play one way, and it's my way.

kittle42
05-26-2008, 01:22 PM
I'm writing a letter to her university to let them know that one of their esteemed deans doesn't need to be throwing beer at people in public, and on top of it, contacting people I know in the Sox ticket office to see if we can't get her tickets taken away. We don't need people like this at the games.

Payback is a bitch.

Awfully righteous from a man who steals extra meat from Chipotle. :cool:

twentywontowin
05-26-2008, 01:23 PM
Awfully righteous from a man who steals extra meat from Chipotle. :cool:

It's not stealing if there is no posted price and they aren't charging. :tongue:

Daver
05-26-2008, 01:30 PM
I've seen enough of this crap.