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Paulwny
04-29-2002, 06:24 PM
I listened to yesterday,s game on the web, Oakland announcers, maybe FWC knows their names.
One of them brought up this question (not exact words): How long will the white sox go with Jose Valentin at 3rd? He's a defensive liability and at this time looks lost at the plate. They have a good glove in the minors in Joe Crede who probably wouldn't hit much below what Valintin is hitting right now.


I'm surprised they knew who Crede was.
DON'T KILL ME , I'M ONLY THE MESSENGER :smile:

PaleHoseGeorge
04-29-2002, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Paulwny
I listened to yesterday,s game on the web, Oakland announcers, maybe FWC knows their names.
One of them brought up this question (not exact words): How long will the white sox go with Jose Valentin at 3rd? He's a defensive liability and at this time looks lost at the plate. They have a good glove in the minors in Joe Crede who probably wouldn't hit much below what Valintin is hitting right now.


I'm surprised they knew who Crede was.
DON'T KILL ME , I'M ONLY THE MESSENGER :smile:

Actually, I was wondering the same thing watching yesterday's game. Valentin can't contribute to the team with his glove, and so far he hasn't contributed with his bat either. Crede is ready to go in AAA--or at least we think he is.

Benching Valentin makes 100-times more sense than benching Lee. Too bad Manuel and Williams can't figure that out.

Daver
04-29-2002, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by PaleHoseGeorge


Actually, I was wondering the same thing watching yesterday's game. Valentin can't contribute to the team with his glove, and so far he hasn't contributed with his bat either. Crede is ready to go in AAA--or at least we think he is.

Benching Valentin makes 100-times more sense than benching Lee. Too bad Manuel and Williams can't figure that out.

Crede currently has a ten game hitting streak going in Charlotte.

Jerry_Manuel
04-29-2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by PaleHoseGeorge
Actually, I was wondering the same thing watching yesterday's game. Valentin can't contribute to the team with his glove, and so far he hasn't contributed with his bat either. Crede is ready to go in AAA--or at least we think he is.

Benching Valentin makes 100-times more sense than benching Lee. Too bad Manuel and Williams can't figure that out.

So, if you bench Valentin, then Crede would have to be the starter at 3rd for the rest of the season. No point to bringing him up, then sending him back down.

I'm not going to say anymore, because it's going to go right to Jose vs. Royce at short.

Paulwny
04-29-2002, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Jerry_Manuel

I'm not going to say anymore, because it's going to go right to Jose vs. Royce at short.


I was going to post during the game but then, I had the same thought.

RedPinStripes
04-29-2002, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by PaleHoseGeorge


Actually, I was wondering the same thing watching yesterday's game. Valentin can't contribute to the team with his glove, and so far he hasn't contributed with his bat either. Crede is ready to go in AAA--or at least we think he is.

Benching Valentin makes 100-times more sense than benching Lee. Too bad Manuel and Williams can't figure that out.

This is a tough spot with most Sox fans. Manos is one of the most popular players on the team, but if he's not hitting, he's close to useless. I'd still rather have Jose at SS and Crede at 3rd, but everytime i see Jose boot a ball or air-mail one, I get pissed off knowing that Crede is rotting in AAA with a possible golden glove and good potential offensivly.

CerberusWG
04-29-2002, 06:46 PM
AVG G AB R H TB 2B 3B HR BB IB SO SLG OBP
.338 19 74 12 25 35 4 0 2 12 10 1 15 .473 .407

Those are Crede's numbers as of now.

bjmarte
04-29-2002, 07:07 PM
Where is czal when I need him to try and talk me down from by Manos bandwagon. Right now I am wishing the real JM and I had listened to him before the season started.

doublem23
04-29-2002, 09:25 PM
Yeah, I'm as big a Manos fan as there is around here, 'cept for maybe FWC (Manos is pure boobs! :smile: ), but I have to admit, he's brutal at third and if he's not hitting, I can't really defend him...

:crede
Bring me up, for God's sake!

Daver
04-29-2002, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by doublem23
Yeah, I'm as big a Manos fan as there is around here, 'cept for maybe FWC (Manos is pure boobs! :smile: ), but I have to admit, he's brutal at third and if he's not hitting, I can't really defend him.

Defending Jose is easy actually,he is a true ballplayer that always has the best interest of the team in mind,and has no problem admitting that he has had a bad day,or that he is in a slump,unlike some players that will remain nameless,that play simply to cash a check.

KruseControl04
04-29-2002, 09:45 PM
Benching Valentin makes 100-times more sense than benching Lee. Too bad Manuel and Williams can't figure that out.

So true, so true. Manuel isn't the smartest manager out there. Hopefully he will soon realize how to manage a baseball game and stop the things that happened against the A's.

RedPinStripes
04-29-2002, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by daver


Defending Jose is easy actually,he is a true ballplayer that always has the best interest of the team in mind,and has no problem admitting that he has had a bad day,or that he is in a slump,unlike some players that will remain nameless,that play simply to cash a check.

He can admit he's wrong all he wants, but if the slump continues, he's not contributing since he's a defensive liability. I hope he comes out of this soon. I don't like talking bad about manos.

:manos
"I have to talk with my killer porn star mustache"

voodoochile
04-29-2002, 10:43 PM
Chance if Manos contines to not hit that he gets packaged with Lee to another team for that veteran pitcher the Sox want. The up come Crede and Borchard and presto, two less rookies next year...

Randar68
04-29-2002, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by voodoochile
Chance if Manos contines to not hit that he gets packaged with Lee to another team for that veteran pitcher the Sox want. The up come Crede and Borchard and presto, two less rookies next year...


Ahh, the fantasy world!

Joe hasn't gotten his timing down in AAA yet. He's hitting something like .118 so far, even though he has been drawing walks.

hmmmmmmmmmm......

If Lee were traded, how long before all the Rowand supporters are screaming for his head?

voodoochile
04-29-2002, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Randar68



Ahh, the fantasy world!

Joe hasn't gotten his timing down in AAA yet. He's hitting something like .118 so far, even though he has been drawing walks.

hmmmmmmmmmm......

If Lee were traded, how long before all the Rowand supporters are screaming for his head?

I'm not expecting anything to happen soon. I would think by Mid-July, Borchard will have his timing back (hopefully much sooner). Talent to get talent... Somewhere out there is a team who wants a veteran utility guy who can play 7 positions and hit for power and a LF with lots of potential. Toss in a prospect of two and presto...

But, you're probably right, the Sox won't make a major trade this year. Still, a guy can dream... or is it fantasize...

It isn't even that I dislike Jose, but Clayton has no trade value and Crede is having his path blocked. What's a fan to do?

RedPinStripes
04-30-2002, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by voodoochile



It isn't even that I dislike Jose, but Clayton has no trade value and Crede is having his path blocked. What's a fan to do?

If it we'rent for that messed up situation, I would have half the posts I have now.

voodoochile
04-30-2002, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by RedPinStripes


If it we'rent for that messed up situation, I would have half the posts I have now.

Just rubbing it in that you bumped me from the top 10...

:D:

RedPinStripes
04-30-2002, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by voodoochile


Just rubbing it in that you bumped me from the top 10...

:D:

HA! I didn't even know i did. lol

voodoochile
04-30-2002, 01:18 AM
Yeah, I bumped PHG earlier this week, so I guess turn about is fair play. Besides both of us are going to catch LDF and Kempers before the end of the week at this rate...

RedPinStripes
04-30-2002, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by voodoochile
Yeah, I bumped PHG earlier this week, so I guess turn about is fair play. Besides both of us are going to catch LDF and Kempers before the end of the week at this rate...

Hey West Jerry Manuel, and Daver, here we come! :)

bjmarte
04-30-2002, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by daver


Defending Jose is easy actually,he is a true ballplayer that always has the best interest of the team in mind,and has no problem admitting that he has had a bad day,or that he is in a slump,unlike some players that will remain nameless,that play simply to cash a check.

I'm not getting down on Jose as a ballplayer. It is just hard to say that he is a better choice at third than Crede right now. Of coarse I am just being fickle. Once Manos smacks a few over the wall I will change my mind again.

RedPinStripes
04-30-2002, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by bjmarte


I'm not getting down on Jose as a ballplayer. It is just hard to say that he is a better choice at third than Crede right now. Of coarse I am just being fickle. Once Manos smacks a few over the wall I will change my mind again.

Let him do that at SS and bring up Crede.

Jerry_Manuel
04-30-2002, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by voodoochile
Chance if Manos contines to not hit that he gets packaged with Lee to another team for that veteran pitcher the Sox want. The up come Crede and Borchard and presto, two less rookies next year...

I'd like to see Manuel, switch Jose and Ray in the order. Unless there's a labor deal in place, I don't think we'll see Borchard until next year, or whenever a deal is in place.

Jerry_Manuel
04-30-2002, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by RedPinStripes
Hey West Jerry Manuel, and Daver, here we come! :)

:jerry
Better bring your stuff!

PaleHoseGeorge
04-30-2002, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by voodoochile
Yeah, I bumped PHG earlier this week, so I guess turn about is fair play. Besides both of us are going to catch LDF and Kempers before the end of the week at this rate...

"PHG, you are the WEAKEST LINK! Good bye!"

:gulp:

voodoochile
04-30-2002, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by PaleHoseGeorge


"PHG, you are the WEAKEST LINK! Good bye!"

:gulp:

I actually felt guilty bumping the founder off of the list, but when opportunity knocks, you can't look back... :D:

Wondered if bumping you would get me banned...

Paulwny
04-30-2002, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by voodoochile


I actually felt guilty bumping the founder off of the list, but when opportunity knocks, you can't look back... :D:

Wondered if bumping you would get me banned...


Don't forget who has control of the board. A few 100 ficticious posts and guess who's ahead.

mack10zie
04-30-2002, 11:54 AM
Watch out fellas, I'm nippin at your heels..... :D:

Iwritecode
04-30-2002, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Paulwny
Don't forget who has control of the board. A few 100 ficticious posts and guess who's ahead.

Hey, it's quality that counts. Not quantity.

Although I have neither...



:spam

voodoochile
04-30-2002, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Iwritecode


Hey, it's quality that counts. Not quantity.

Although I have neither...



:spam

one more for 1000... spam a couple...

:hawk
"I love :spam "