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DrCrawdad
04-18-2008, 07:25 AM
The Sun-Times has an article today (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/901817,CST-SPT-gordo18.article) about some racist shirt(s) that are being sold outside Wrigley. I posted a comment on the ST site:

Racists shirts being sold outside Wrigley? It's nothing new.

Last year there were shirts on sale that said, "U.S. Never Cell-Out Field. World's Largest Ghetto, where there are more drive bys than line drives." Complete with pictures of guns on the Sox scoreboard, "9-1-1" and hand-cuffs.

Why was there no cry of complaint in this paper last year?

This shirt reflects the smears and put-downs that many Cubbie fans and even some in the media spit forth. So, it's no surprise enterprising people made the shirts and no surprise that there were no complaints.

Parrothead
04-18-2008, 07:30 AM
If the ST is going to mention those shirts then in fairness they have to mention, "Wrigley Field - the World's Largest Gay Bar" shirts that are sold at USCF.

DrCrawdad
04-18-2008, 07:32 AM
If the ST is going to mention those shirts then in fairness they have to mention, "Wrigley Field - the World's Largest Gay Bar" shirts that are sold at USCF.

Those are stupid, but the shirt I mentioned IS racist. Apparently though that shirt was ok because it smeared Sox fans and heck they employ a guy who likes doing that.

DumpJerry
04-18-2008, 07:45 AM
Why didn't the article point out that the arrival of Shingo and Iguchi did not cause Sox fans to do something just as ignorant? Is that too much to ask for?

DrCrawdad
04-18-2008, 07:48 AM
Why didn't the article point out that the arrival of Shingo and Iguchi did not cause Sox fans to do something just as ignorant? Is that too much to ask for?

Unless they could somehow smear and belittle Sox fans, they weren't interested.

jenn2080
04-18-2008, 09:06 AM
If the ST is going to mention those shirts then in fairness they have to mention, "Wrigley Field - the World's Largest Gay Bar" shirts that are sold at USCF.


Oh dont forget about the one where there is a guy on his knees in front of another guy. :rolleyes: Completely inappropriate.

jenn2080
04-18-2008, 09:07 AM
Those are stupid, but the shirt I mentioned IS racist. Apparently though that shirt was ok because it smeared Sox fans and heck they employ a guy who likes doing that.


How are those shirts wrong, but the gay shirts aren't?

rowand33
04-18-2008, 09:07 AM
so, between these rascist shirts, that fat drunk guy falling into the net, and Marty Brennaman saying the God's truth on air it sure must be a proud time to be a Cubs fan

bryPt
04-18-2008, 09:09 AM
racism as wrigley, go figure.

DrCrawdad
04-18-2008, 09:20 AM
How are those shirts wrong, but the gay shirts aren't?

Those "World's Largest ..." shirts are wrong and as I said, stupid. Those shirts are not racist though. The current article is about a racist shirt on-sale outside Wrigley and in that context I think it's certainly reasonable to discuss other racist shirts that have been on-sale outside Wrigley. The "World's Largest..." shirts are wrong, but it's a different slur and different venue.

Frater Perdurabo
04-18-2008, 09:26 AM
Why didn't the article point out that the arrival of Shingo and Iguchi did not cause Sox fans to do something just as ignorant? Is that too much to ask for?

Excellent point.

I guess we just have to be satisfied seeing stories that show any negative actions by the world's greatest fans.

Viva Medias B's
04-18-2008, 09:29 AM
so, between these rascist shirts, that fat drunk guy falling into the net, and Marty Brennaman saying the God's truth on air it sure must be a proud time to be a Cubs fan

When was this?

rowand33
04-18-2008, 09:33 AM
When was this?

http://deadspin.com/379808/surprisingly-alcohol-may-have-been-involved

palehozenychicty
04-18-2008, 09:38 AM
racism as wrigley, go figure.

Seriously. That's like grass being green.

Frontman
04-18-2008, 10:03 AM
Yet another side of fandom that's nasty. Sox fans take it too far (the World Series shirt with the championship ring on the middle finger comes to mind.) But to me, I don't care for the seller's philosophy.

"Well, I'm making money off of it."

That type of thought overlooks a large number of gaffes in our society.

Gavin
04-18-2008, 10:06 AM
This angers me but really, these people aren't selling anything that a certain group of people don't want to buy. In other words, there's obviously a bigger issue at hand.

That being said, isn't there something management/the city can do to license/regulate these vendors?

The apparel that mocks Asians is particularly grating, IMO

SoxGirl4Life
04-18-2008, 10:06 AM
Yet another side of fandom that's nasty. Sox fans take it too far (the World Series shirt with the championship ring on the middle finger comes to mind.)
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I hate that one.

daveeym
04-18-2008, 10:45 AM
Why didn't the article point out that the arrival of Shingo and Iguchi did not cause Sox fans to do something just as ignorant? Is that too much to ask for?Hey don't forget that the gong and GOOOOCH was racist.

rowand33
04-18-2008, 10:49 AM
Hey don't forget that the gong and GOOOOCH was racist.

no teal?

You can make an argument for the gong (one I wouldn't agree with).

I have no idea how Gooch is wrong.

daveeym
04-18-2008, 10:50 AM
No teal necessary. Not saying I agree, just go look at old threads on the issues. Quite a few heated debates back in the day over those two things. Gooch apparently is some sort of slur in Japan.

rdwj
04-18-2008, 10:51 AM
I hate that one.

I thought it was a little tasteless and crude, but the first time I saw it, I laughed.

Taliesinrk
04-18-2008, 10:56 AM
No teal necessary. Not saying I agree, just go look at old threads on the issues. Quite a few heated debates back in the day over those two things. Gooch apparently is some sort of slur in Japan.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with why fans in America were cheering for him in this form. Maybe in another language "Moooooose" is racist, and therefore, so were the Dallas Cowboy fans for cheering him in that manner.

Furthermore (and I should preface this with the fact that I haven't read the article), but I don't see how these shirts are specifically racist. They depict a ghetto and violence at the cell (obsviously ridiculous), but I would more agree with the notion that it mocks those in poverty rather than making this a race issue. Then again, I feel this way about most issues that are automatically placed into the race category.

thegooch
04-18-2008, 10:56 AM
Hey don't forget that the gong and GOOOOCH was racist.

The Gong i'll give you. But how in God's name is GOOOOOCH racist?

HitMan_naMtiH
04-18-2008, 11:01 AM
You have real problems if a t-shirt offends you. Granted if theres porn/nudity on it ok but come on.

Gavin
04-18-2008, 11:09 AM
You have real problems if a t-shirt offends you. Granted if theres porn/nudity on it ok but come on.

it's a slippery slope, bro-ski

jenn2080
04-18-2008, 11:20 AM
Those "World's Largest ..." shirts are wrong and as I said, stupid. Those shirts are not racist though. The current article is about a racist shirt on-sale outside Wrigley and in that context I think it's certainly reasonable to discuss other racist shirts that have been on-sale outside Wrigley. The "World's Largest..." shirts are wrong, but it's a different slur and different venue.


****ty point. Both stereotype and discriminate against a certain group of people. Neither group of shirts are right.

UofCSoxFan
04-18-2008, 11:23 AM
You have real problems if a t-shirt offends you. Granted if theres porn/nudity on it ok but come on.

I respectfully disagree...for example a swastika image on a t-shirt would be very offensive to me (and I'm not even Jewish).

For the "Gooch" thing, I think I have heard that is an antiquated racial slur for peple from the Far East. That being said, in no way did people think of that when cheering for Iguchi. It was obviously a cheer derived from his last name. I know this is different, but its sort of like how Redskins fans saying, "Let's go Redskins" are not being racist (and yes I know that's a whole other issue, since the team name at the time was intentially racist but I think people get my point).

On another note, I found it interesting that the article did not point out the Fukodome t-shirts/banners the TEAM printed and sold at the Cubs Convention that had the Imperial Japanese flag in the background, which for people living in the Pacific during WWII or for people that fought there, is the equivalent of using a swastika.

Ex-Chicagoan
04-18-2008, 11:26 AM
Neither group of shirts are right.

Which is what he said.

goon
04-18-2008, 11:27 AM
http://deadspin.com/379808/surprisingly-alcohol-may-have-been-involved

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Uncle_Patrick
04-18-2008, 11:28 AM
I think these t-shirts are all really just a sad comment on Chicago, be it the "Horry Cow" shirt or "The World's Largest Bar" shirt. They both just reek of ignorance and why anyone would buy one, much less wear one, is beyond me.

I guess what's really sad about the "Horry Cow" shirt (along with other nonsense happening at Wrigley) is that people think that they are actually honoring Fukadome by doing these stupid things. Its like they've never seen someone from Japan before or something.

Scottzilla
04-18-2008, 11:33 AM
You have real problems if a t-shirt offends you. Granted if theres porn/nudity on it ok but come on.


Maybe YOU have a problem if nudity offends you.

Its all relative isn't it?

The gaybar shirt is offensive to homosexuals who are sox fans. No one wants to be associated with being a cubs fan.

HitMan_naMtiH
04-18-2008, 11:41 AM
I respectfully disagree...for example a swastika image on a t-shirt would be very offensive to me (and I'm not even Jewish).

For the "Gooch" thing, I think I have heard that is an antiquated racial slur for peple from the Far East. That being said, in no way did people think of that when cheering for Iguchi. It was obviously a cheer derived from his last name. I know this is different, but its sort of like how Redskins fans saying, "Let's go Redskins" are not being racist (and yes I know that's a whole other issue, since the team name at the time was intentially racist but I think people get my point).

On another note, I found it interesting that the article did not point out the Fukodome t-shirts/banners the TEAM printed and sold at the Cubs Convention that had the Imperial Japanese flag in the background, which for people living in the Pacific during WWII or for people that fought there, is the equivalent of using a swastika.

Maybe YOU have a problem if nudity offends you.

Its all relative isn't it?

The gaybar shirt is offensive to homosexuals who are sox fans. No one wants to be associated with being a cubs fan.
If a t-shirt offends you I would hate to see how you would react to a real problem in the world. I'm not condoning this behavior nor would I ever buy one but I don't get butt-hurt over seeing one.

Ex-Chicagoan
04-18-2008, 11:44 AM
If a t-shirt offends you I would hate to see how you would react to a real problem in the world. I'm not condoning this behavior nor would I ever buy one but I don't get butt-hurt over seeing one.

Nice.

Bigotry IS a "real problem in the world."

Please refer to the threads about the Cub fanbase and how a minority of idiots can make a majority look bad.

kittle42
04-18-2008, 11:46 AM
I think these t-shirts are all really just a sad comment on Chicago, be it the "Horry Cow" shirt or "The World's Largest Bar" shirt. They both just reek of ignorance and why anyone would buy one, much less wear one, is beyond me.

Because people are ****ing stupid. And yes, anyone on this site who owns the "Bar" shirt - you are, too.

moochpuppy
04-18-2008, 11:48 AM
Ah, the evolution of the human being. Makes one proud to be one.

Scottzilla
04-18-2008, 11:54 AM
If a t-shirt offends you I would hate to see how you would react to a real problem in the world. I'm not condoning this behavior nor would I ever buy one but I don't get butt-hurt over seeing one.

OK the last line was a joke. Im not offended by tshirts.

Anyway these tshirts are a symptom of a real problem in this world. That problem being stupidity.

voodoochile
04-18-2008, 11:54 AM
I think that's enough of this crap...

Closed.